and we are never the same god just because we are ONE.
My wife and I are never, ever, ONE god.
And being BORN from GOD as Jesus was does not make Jesus GOD or the same GOD, but the Son of His GOD, as GOD and Jesus have always declared and only ever taught,
and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Matthew 3:17. Matthew 17:5.
do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said,
‘I am the Son of God’?
The fact that Jesus was a MAN, and was temped as a MAN, and had to overcome all trials and temptations as a MAN, who was tested and tortured more then any MEN, who overcome all trials and temptations by being fully obedient to His Father’s will, is proof on its own Jesus was NOT the same GOD He was born from.
The Greek word for Christ is: Χριστός, οῦ, ὁ Transliteration: Christos Phonetic Spelling: (khris-tos’) Definition: the Anointed One, Messiah, Christ, and does not mean or translate as the ONE TRUE GOD.
This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. And this is the promise that he made to use—eternal life. 1 John 2.22-25.
As we see, most Trinitarians believe and still believe today that Jesus was claiming in John 10:30 to be ONE GOD with His Father.
And what did the rebellious JEWS believe Jesus meant when He said: I and the Father are ONE?
The answer is in the next coming verse of 10:33, so lets have a look?
31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” 33 The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”
As we see, the Jews did not believe Jesus was claiming to be (a God), but instead, the same GOD as His Father, by the fact that Jesus had just told them: I and the Father are ONE, so the Jews reacted by picking up stones again to stone Jesus.
The Jews then go on to give the answer to why they want to stone Jesus in verse 33: The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”
So the rebellious JEWS believed Jesus meant He was the same GOD as His Father.
And this same belief has continued throughout much of Christianity today.
I think we need to look at this some more, and while doing so we discover there are some important facts to notice:
Jesus never said: I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE GOD.
But instead said: I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.
These are not the same.
Jesus did NOT say I and the Father are ONE person of being as WRONGLY taught by the Oneness Pentecostals.
The Trinity doctrine teaches that there are THREE persons in the GODHEAD, and that the third person of the Godhead is the Holy Spirit. Yet the so-called third person of the Godhead of the Holy Spirit is not mentioned by Jesus in John 10:30.
Why would Jesus leave out (and not even mention) such an important person of the Holy Spirit, IF the Holy Spirit was indeed a separate person and equal with GOD and the SON?
Now, the question becomes: if Jesus did not mean He and the Father are ONE GOD, then what did He mean?
Most are confused with what Jesus said and meant here, and in their confusion they believe this proves that Jesus and the Father are, in fact, ONE GOD.
When I was a deceived Trinitarian for 10 years, I was one of those who misunderstood this to believe that Jesus meant He and GOD are ONE GOD, and I used the same TRINITY scriptures to support the Trinity, because I believed what I was taught by other deceived TRINITY teachers, instead of doing my own research, which is the same problem with most Trinitarians today.
However, then I changed my mind. I came to understand that this so-called statement contradicts Jesus’ own teachings – many, many times throughout the Bible – when Jesus said that He is the SON of God and there is only ONE true GOD, meaning (ALWAYS EXISTED), who has always been.
However, they are NEVER the same person or same god as we are all little gods; they are always two completely separate persons, and separate gods.
Jesus prayed to His Father, GOD, asking that He and His disciples could also become ONE:
Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE. John 17:11.
I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, 21 THAT THEY MAY ALL BE ONE, JUST AS YOU, FATHER, ARE IN ME, AND I IN YOU, that they also may be in us. John 17:20.
Here it is clear Jesus prayed that GOD and His disciples would all become in complete agreement, and in harmony they would join together as a family, just as Jesus has ONE purpose with His Father, God – to be in complete agreement, harmony, and purpose, just as he desires to make all God’s children ONE in substance.