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John 6:38 — How Did Jesus Come Down From Heaven?
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This Quick Facts infographic examines one of Jesus' most discussed statements in John 6:38: "I have come down from heaven." By comparing this verse with the wider context of Scripture, including the teaching about the Second Adam, the only begotten Son of God, and Jesus' own words concerning the Father, the study encourages readers to examine whether Jesus was describing a literal pre-human existence or revealing a deeper spiritual truth about His divine mission. Read the full research at https://wwwrealdiscoveriesorg-simon.blogspot.com/
How Did Jesus Come Down From Heaven If He Was Not Already in Heaven?
John 6:38
By Simon Brown
Quick Facts
Many Christians believe that when Jesus said,
"For I have come down from heaven..." (John 6:38)
He was teaching that He personally existed in heaven before His birth.
But is that really what Jesus meant?
Before reaching that conclusion, let us first consider several important biblical facts.
Quick Facts
Jesus is called the Last Adam, the Second Adam, and the final Adam (1 Corinthians 15:45–49; Romans 5:12–19).
The first Adam did not exist before he became a man.
To truly be the Second Adam, Jesus also had to be a genuine human being, sharing our nature and our temptations (Hebrews 2:14–17; Hebrews 4:15).
Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, the promised Messiah, and the Christ—not God Himself, not Michael the Archangel, and not a pre-existent angelic being.
Scripture repeatedly teaches that God gave His Son (John 3:16). It never says that God gave Himself.
Jesus continually referred to the Father as His God and acknowledged that the Father is greater than He is.
The Father alone is described by Jesus as "the only true God" (John 17:3).
The New Testament repeatedly distinguishes one God, the Father, from one Lord, Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 8:6).
Jesus perfectly fulfilled the role of the Second Adam because He remained faithful where the first Adam failed.
If Jesus had literally lived as another being before becoming human, many important comparisons between Adam and Christ would require careful re-examination.
So how should we understand Jesus' words:
"I have come down from heaven"?
Did Jesus mean He was literally alive in heaven before His birth?
Or was He speaking in the figurative language that He so often used throughout His ministry?
Let us examine the Scriptures.
Part 1 – Did Jesus Often Speak Figuratively?
One of the most important principles for understanding the words of Jesus is remembering how He taught.
Matthew tells us:
"Jesus spoke all these things to the crowds in parables."(Matthew 13:34–35)
Later Jesus told His disciples:
"I have spoken these things to you in figures of speech..."(John 16:25)
Throughout His ministry Jesus frequently used metaphors, illustrations, idioms, and symbolic language.
For example:
"I am the door."
"I am the vine."
"Eat My flesh."
"Drink My blood."
"Destroy this temple."
"Move this mountain."
No one believes these expressions were always intended to be understood literally.
Therefore, before concluding that "came down from heaven" describes Jesus' personal existence in heaven before His birth, we should first ask whether Jesus could also have been speaking figuratively while expressing a literal truth about His divine origin.
That is exactly what we will now examine.
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Revelation 12:9
Although Sir Isaac Newton got things wrong, it seems he certainly understood the TRINITY was a great deception by the Catholic church.
And the countless false Trinitarian Bible translations that can easily be seen by the own hands of the Trinitarian translators confirms with what Sir Isaac Newton said and believed saying the Scriptures had been altered and early Christian writers had been misquoted to make it appear that Trinitarianism had been the original faith.”
Sadly again most of Christianity have misunderstood what Jesus meant by saying: I and the Father are one in John 10:30.
When Jesus simply meant He and His Father are one in unity and agreement, just as Jesus prayed for His disciples saying: Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, EVEN AS WE ARE ONE. John 17:11.
Jesus never said: I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE (GOD). But instead said: I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.
In my understanding I also believe when we believe the Begotten SON of GOD is the same GOD He was Begotten from, DENIES the literal Father and SON.
And He was questioning them, "But whom do you pronounce Me to be?" Peter answering, says to Him, “You are the Christ.” Mark 8:29.
Notice how Simon Peter understood how Jesus is the Christ, the Son of GOD, and NO mention of Jesus being GOD.
13 And Jesus having come into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was questioning His disciples saying, “Whom do men pronounce the Son of Man to be?” 14 And they said, “Some indeed, John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” 15 He says to them, “But whom do you pronounce Me to be?” 16 And Simon Peter answering said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus answering, said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona! For flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but My Father in the heavens. Matthew 16:
Notice how Jesus praised Simon Peter for understanding that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus words praising Simon Peter proves the importance of how we MUST understand precisely who Jesus is and that He is the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
The Greek word for Christ is Χριστός, οῦ, ὁ and means Christos: the Anointed One, Messiah, Christ, and never, ever means I am GOD.
No one can get to the ONE TRUE GOD, unless we go THROUGH the ONE TRUE CHRIST.
John 6:38.
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Bible translations by Berean Literal Bible unless otherwise stated.
There are five scriptures that are causing an enormous confusion and deception within most of the Christian population.
Lets have a look.
John 3:13
And no one has gone up into heaven except the One having come down out of heaven, the Son of Man.
John 3:31
The One coming from above is above all.
The one being from the earth is from the earth, and speaks from the earth.
The One coming from heaven is above all.
John 6:38
For I have come down from heaven,
not that I should do My will, but the will of the One having sent Me.
John 8:23
And He was saying to them,
"You are from below; I am from above.
You are of this world; I am not of this world.
We also read in John 6:42 how some of Jesus audience confirmed with what Jesus said.
John 6:42
And they were saying, "Is this not Jesus the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then does He say,
‘I have come down from heaven?’”
Notice how Luke tells us Jesus: will be called the Son of God.
There is NOTHING by Luke saying Jesus was already the Son of GOD, which would simply be the case If Jesus PRE-EXISTED in Heaven who should ALREADY be the Son of GOD, as taught by most of Certainty.
If Jesus already PRE-EXISTED His flesh in HEAVEN, and CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, then surely Luke would be instead saying: therefore also the Holy One being born (HAS COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN) who (IS) called the Son of God.
In BOTH accounts of Jesus birth in Matthew 1:18 and Luke 1:31-35 there is absolutely NOTHING what so ever saying JESUS CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN and was conceived in the womb of Mary and was TRANSFORMED from being GOD or from being an angel into the BABY Jesus.
There is NOTHING in Mathew or Luke saying how GOD brought DOWN FROM HEAVEN His Son Jesus to be TRANSFORMED and be RE-BORN as a MAN.
Just as there is NOTHING by GOD saying He would be TRANSFORMED into a MAN in the womb of Mary and Mary would be GODS mother.
Just as there is NOTHING by Jesus saying GOD brought Him DOWN FROM HEAVEN to be TRANSFORMED and be RE-BORN as a MAN.
WHERE did Jesus say I AM GOD, OR I WAS AN ANGEL OF THE LORD?
Why do most of christianity say, believe and teach they believe what jesus taught, when Jesus never ever said or taught, he was GOD almighty, or that he was an angel of the lord?
Why cant most of Christianity understand what is so simple to understand, that if we say and believe Jesus is the same GOD He was Begotten from, we then DENY Jesus as the Christ and the Son of His GOD, which also DENIES GOD as the Father.
Who is the liar, except the one denying that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22.
The Greek word for Christ is Χριστός, οῦ, ὁ and means Christos: the Anointed One, Messiah, Christ, and never, ever means I am GOD, but instead believing Christ is GOD, DENIES Jesus as the Christ and the Son of GOD.
and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and which is already in the world at this time. 1 John 4:3. Berean Study Bible.
John 6:38
Notice how the disciples confirm Jesus came from GOD, and did not say CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN from GOD, because as they confirmed they now understood that Jesus was speaking in allegories: His disciples say, “ behold, now You speak in openness, and You do not speak allegory.
Another good example that proves Jesus was speaking in allegories is seen in John 3:13
And no one has gone up into heaven except the One having come down out of heaven, the Son of Man.
Notice Jesus says: the Son of Man.





















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