Translations by English Standard Version, unless otherwise stated.
The Trinity faith believe The Father and The Son and The Holy Spirit are THREE separate beings, yet the same ONE TRUE GOD.
While The Oneness Pentecostal faith do not believe in the Trinity, but believe there is one God, a singular divine Spirit, who manifests himself in many ways, including as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
In other words, GOD The Father is The Son, and also The Holy Ghost.
And because John 1:1c goes on to say: and the (Word) was God, this is why MOST therefore believe Jesus is the ONE TRUE GOD, because MOST believe the (word) is Jesus the Son.
The lovely and sincere people of The Jehovah Witnesses correctly believe Jesus is NOT GOD, but also wrongly believe the word is Jesus in John 1:1 and use their own translation saying John 1:1c should be (a God), and not THE ONE TRUE GOD, and also believe Jesus was Michael the Angel who pre-existed His flesh before He was BORN as the MAN Jesus.
So MOST therefore believe Jesus was with GOD the Father before all creation.
I was one who was deceived by believing this, until I was shown and proved to be wrong and again repented for being deceived.
I Simon Brown will now share what I know with you, in hope to also help you see, by demonstrating how MOST are all wrong by believing the word in John 1:1 is a person called Jesus.
I will prove how the enemy of our souls has caused enormous confusions and deceptions right at the very beginning of John 1:1 which is probably the No 1 most misunderstood verse in the whole Bible and within Christianity.
Lets first examine the meanings of the (word).
As GOD and Jesus speak words, we also speak words.
We all know that the very words we speak from our very mouths are NOT a person, but come out from a person.
So as the words come OUT of a persons MOUTH, does that make the very spoken words a PERSON?
The simple answer is NO.
In fact the Trinitarians themselves describe the meaning of (word) spoken in the Strong’s Concordance: Usage: a thing spoken, (a) a word or saying of any kind, as command, report, promise, (b) a thing, matter, business.
For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak. John 12:49.
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. Deuteronomy 18:18.
Notice how GOD says: I will put my words in his mouth?
Notice what God tells us here in Deuteronomy 18:18 is identical to John 1:1:
In the beginning was the (Word),
So we read in Deuteronomy 18:18 and John 1:1 how GOD’s word was WITH GOD and from GOD from the beginning, and that His (word) goes forth.
So Jesus said to them, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he, and that I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me. John 8:28
Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. John 14:10
For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. John 17:8
Here are the Biblical facts:
If Jesus was the (Word) in John 1:1, then John would have simply said: In the beginning was the (SON), and the (SON) was with God, and the (SON) was God, or was a God.
However there is nothing by John saying the word is a person in John 1:1a and b, or that the word is Jesus or the SON anywhere in John 1:1.
So this proves the translation of John 1:1 saying: In the beginning was the (word), and the (word) was with God, and the (word) was God. John 1:1 is perfectly correct.
And in the very next verse of John 1;2 we read another false translation, by the fact the translators have added in the word saying (HE) was in the beginning with God.
The correct word (THIS) has been changed for the wrong word (HE).
The word (HE) is to deceive people into believing John was teaching the false word (HE), is a person, who is (Jesus HE), who was in the beginning with God.
But as we see, on close examination, the correct word is (THIS) and NOT (HE).
We now move to John 1:3, where we read: All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Again, because John 1:3 goes on to say: All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made, MOST therefore believe GOD created: All things through (him), Jesus.
However, again on close examination, we find there are many other translations of John 1:3, that do not have the word (HIM) but instead say (IT).
Example: Mr Anthony Buzzard has made me aware of many other translations of John 1: like:
"In the beginning was the word, and the worde was with God, and that worde was God. The same was in the begynnyng with God. Althinges were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made. In it was lyfe, and the lyfe was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkeness, and the darknes comprehended it not” (William Whittingham, The Newe Testament of Our Lord Jesus Christ, Conferred Diligently with the Greke, and Best Approved Translation, Geneva: Conrad Badius, 1557).
“In the beginning was the Worde, and the Worde was with God and that Worde was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made. In it was lif, and the lif was the light of men. And the light shineth in the darkenes, and the darkenes comprehended it not” (Geneva Bible, The Bible and Holy Scriptures conteyned in the Olde and Newe Testament, Geneva: Rouland Hall, 1560).
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was that Word. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by it, and without it, was made nothing that was made. In it was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in the darknesse, and the darknesse comprehendeth it not” (Bishops’ Bible, The Holie Bible, London: Richard Jugge, 1568).
“In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that Word was God. This same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made. In it was life, and that life was the light of men. And that light shineth in the darknes, and the darknesse comprehended it not” (Lawrence Tomson, The New Testament of Our Lord Jesus Christ, Translated out of Greeke by Theod. Beza, London: Robert Barker, 1607).
In the beginning there was God’s Grand Design, the declaration of His Intention and Purpose, and that declaration was with God as His project, and it was fully expressive of God Himself. This was with God in the beginning. Everything came into being through it, and without it nothing of what came into being existed. In it there was life and that life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness and the darkness does not overwhelm it. A Translation of John’s Gospel from the Greek by Anthony Buzzard
Please go to the link: John 1 in 50+ English Translations. Sir Anthony Buzzard, and there you will see there are many Translations that have the word (IT) and not (HIM) used in John 1:3.
So what is the truth?
What did John say and mean in John 1:1, 2 and 3?
Is the word in John 1:1 Jesus?
John is telling us the (word) was GOD because the (word) is FROM GOD, so the words GOD speaks are GODS.
The WORD is GOD’s divine utterance, expressing His thoughts and plan and message.
Notice in the Strong’s Concordance: logos: a word (as embodying an idea), a statement, a speech.
And there is nothing by John saying the word is a SEPARATE SECOND PERSON.
Also notice in just some scriptures coming shortly how GOD said He ALONE is the creator, and says there is NO ONE WITH HIM, or that He worked THROUGH Jesus before His Son Jesus was BORN.
This is so simple. IF GOD created the world THROUGH Jesus, then the Hebrews writer would have simply said: Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by (HIS SON) and would NOT say by the prophets.
In fact there is not a single word by GOD the Father saying he created all things by and through his son, which is odd if Jesus was with GOD at creation.
All we read and see in many verses is GOD saying countless times He created all things on his own with NO ONE next to Him or with Him.
So my question is to the Trinity faith and the Oneness Pentecostal faith, and to MOST of the Christian population, WHERE IS JESUS WHEN GOD SAID: Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the LORD, who made all things, who alone, stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth, by myself. ISAIAH 44:24.
Now here is a question I will ask myself.
Why did John tell us in John 1:14: And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. The problem here is that IF GOD the Father was the (word) in John 1:1, then surely that would mean GOD The Father has become flesh in John 1:14, because John told us that the (Word) was God, John 1:1c.
And this is WHY MOST believe Jesus is GOD and have therefore become so confused and deceived.
And this was a problem for me, stopping me from believing the Unitarians were correct, simply because GOD is the word, John 1:1 and then the word becomes FLESH, John 1:14.
So it sounds like GOD has become flesh.
However being a human, who is capable of errors, I have since put my hands up and confessed I was wrong and repented.
And I now believe the answer has now become very SIMPLE.
WHY and how did GOD the word in John 1:1 become FLESH in John 1:14?
The answer is because: NOT GOD The Father, but Jesus The SON of GOD who is The SON of MAN, became the VISIBLE, and PHYSICAL, LIVING and WALKING, (word of GOD) and The LIGHT of GOD and LIGHT of the world. John 1:14: And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
And this therefore explains WHY John said in Revelation 19:13: He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.
GOD sent His only begotten SON, to speak His word, and be His word, and then GOD sacrificed His only Begotten SON, to be the Lamb of GOD: 16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”
Join me Simon Brown again in my next coming REVISED Video: Trinitarian Confusion and Deception: John 8:58 (I am).
SEEK AND YOU WILL FIND SAID JESUS, Mathew 7:7.
Until next time, I will leave you with an email I received from Mr Dudley.
Simon my friend, what you have to remember is that the word “word” is not a person in anyone’s language, it is a THING. It is the chararistic of the language which confuses people. The word “word” is similar to words like wine and bread which are in the Greek language referred to as a “he or him” (αὐτοῦ) but the Greek know they are not persons. And therefore because the word “word” IS NOT a person but “a thing” in anyone’s language, it should be referred to as an IT in English, just as you would with bread and wine in English. In Greek bread and wine would be referred to as a he or a him (αὐτοῦ) but NO ONE would think they are real persons. Most nouns in the Greek have a male or female gender assigned to them even though they are not persons. Like the word “beginning”, it has a female gender assigned to it, but you know “beginning” is NOT a female person. Now, the sense of the word in John 1 encompasses a great variety of things that have to do with God’s plan of salvation which you seem to understand. The power and authority of God’s word is embodied into Jesus flesh giving him the power and authority of God to fulfil God’s divine will and purpose. Col 2:9, By the power and authority of God’s word the heavens were made (Ps33:6) ( Ps 33:9), (Acts 10:38) LOOK IT UP. May you have peace my friend. Dudley.
Simon, The very top scholarly sources Theologicla Dictionary of the NT is very insistent on IT not Him. “It was with God” It was God or divine. All things were made through IT. In IT was life. It was the light of Men. Alll these sayings of John are sayings about the Torah., (Vol 4, p. 135). Anthony Buzzard.
Most translations get this wrong since they want you to believe “in the beginning was the SON” A false Jesus, not really human
Yes, Isa is absolutely clear. God was totally alone at creation The word “word” is hundreds of times not another person! It is only because of the false creeds of Christendom that people imagine a second God The text says the word was GOD Himself, ie not another person. Error has driven people insane and our task is to try to help them as we have been helped. Jews and Moslems, millions of them, are right offended at a Triple God IN hope, Anthony www.restorationfellowship.org