Simon Brown.

Proverbs 8:34-36 Blessed is the man who hears me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at my door posts. For whoever finds me finds life, and will obtain favor from Yahweh. But he who sins against me wrongs his own soul. All those who hate me love death.” Psalm 84: 11 For Yahweh God is a sun and a shield. Yahweh will give grace and glory. He withholds no good thing from those who walk blamelessly. 12 Yahweh of Armies, blessed is the man who trusts in you. 1 John 5:5 Now who is the one overcoming the world, except the one believing that Jesus is the Son of God?

Friday 8 November 2019

Question? DID GOD send a PREEXISTING Jesus?

Question? DID GOD send a PREEXISTING Jesus?

Learn about WHY it is impossible for Jesus to be a PRE HUMAN, and be one of FEW who will overcome the enemies deceptions, when MOST are being deceived, with a FALSE PRE HUMAN JESUS.



In Deuteronomy 18:15 we read how Moses predicted the coming Messiah Jesus:
Yahweh your God, will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me. You shall listen to him.

Please make note within the verse: Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet?
We now turn to: Luke 2:52:
And Jesus continued, to advance, in wisdom and stature, and in favor, with God and men. Berean Literal Bible.

So within just two of many verses we read: Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet, Deuteronomy 18:15, and that He is Jesus (who) continued to advance in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.

Instantly, there is a great problem here.
If Jesus is the SAME ONE TRUE GOD, He then sent and raised up Himself, and continued to advance in wisdom and stature,  in favor with HIMSELF.

We know Deuteronomy 18:15 was a for filled prophecy of Jesus by going to the new testament  FULFILLMENT in John 1:45 saying:
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. 

And in Luke 24:27 we read:
Berean Literal Bible
And having begun from Moses and from all the Prophets, He interpreted to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.


DID GOD send a PREEXISTING Jesus?



Here are some OBVIOUS Facts to consider:

Notice, how we do NOT read ANYWHERE in the whole Bible, that GOD would send a PREEXISTING Jesus?

Notice, there is NOT a single word from GOD ANYWHERE in the whole Bible, saying Jesus was always ALIVE and WITH GOD, before ALL CREATION.

Notice, there is NOT a single word from or by Jesus saying He was  ALIVE and WITH GOD, before ALL CREATION.

Now there are verses like John 3:13, John 6:6, John 6:42, that are deceiving people because they are not understanding what Jesus truly meant by saying He came down from heaven,  believing Jesus meant  He was ALIVE before He was BORN, BECAUSE Jesus said he came down from heaven.
Please see my article below: John 6:38. How Did Jesus COME DOWN From Heaven If He Did NOT PRE-EXIST His flesh?

The Simple Biblical facts are:

IF Jesus was a preexisting Son, WHY would Jesus need to advance in wisdom and stature?

IF Jesus pre-existed BEFORE Creation and BEFORE all humans, Jesus would NOT need to advance in wisdom and stature.

Notice the Greek word for (σοφίᾳ wisdom) and means insight, skill (human or divine), intelligence.

IF Jesus pre-existed BEFORE Creation and BEFORE all Humans, Jesus would simply HAVE ALL WISDOM, and understanding, and knowledge and would NOT need to advance in wisdom and stature.

Again IF Jesus were GOD, Jesus would simply HAVE ALL WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING, and knowledge and would NOT need to advance in wisdom and stature, because GOD is ALL KNOWING and ALL WISDOM and ALL UNDERSTANDING, and ALL KNOWLEDGE.

Here are Just some verses about God being ALL KNOWING:
Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding has no limit. Psalm 147:5

Even before a word is on my tongue, You know all about it, O LORD. Psalm 139:4. 

Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will never grow faint or weary; His understanding is beyond searching out. Isaiah 40:28  

If Jesus pre existed His flesh, or was the same GOD He was BORN from, Jesus would have the SAME ALL KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING, and knowledge as GOD.

The TRINITY faith believe and teach Jesus is GOD the SON, who is co-equal along with the person of the Father & the Holy Spirit.

However this is again another GREAT TRINITARIAN contradiction.

Jesus confirmed His Father is greater proving they are NOT  co-equal proving He was NOT GOD by saying:
You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. John 14:28

Jesus also confirmed He did NOT have the SAME ALL KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING, and knowledge as GOD:
But concerning that day, and hour, no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. Matthew 24:36.

Jesus always taught, GOD was WITH Him, and In Him:  John 14:11
Berean Study Bible
Believe Me, that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me or at least, believe on account of the works themselves.

Jesus always taught, GOD was doing his works in Him, telling Him what to say, as we read in John 14:10:
Berean Literal Bible
Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I speak to you, I do not speak from Myself; but the Father dwelling in Me does His works.

If Jesus was GOD, or a PRE EXISTING HUMAN, and lived before all creatures and creation, then Jesus would simply KNOW what to say and speak, and therefor would not need his Father WITH Him, and In Him, and telling Him what to say and do.


The Biblical facts are SIMPLE.


As Jesus never, ever taught He was GOD.
Jesus also never, ever taught He was a PRE EXISTING ANGEL, or a PRE EXISTING SPIRIT  or a PRE EXISTING HUMAN.

Jesus ONLY ever taught He was a MAN:
but now you seek to kill me, a man, who has told you the truth, that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. John 8:40

But NOTICE how some translators have removed the words from the Greek text where Jesus said He is a MAN?

New Living Translation
Instead, you are trying to kill me because I told you the truth, which I heard from God. Abraham never did such a thing.

Contemporary English Version
Instead, you want to kill me for telling you the truth that God gave me. Abraham never did anything like that.

Good News Translation
All I have ever done is to tell you the truth I heard from God, yet you are trying to kill me. Abraham did nothing like this!


A PRE EXISTING Jesus, is NOT the second MAN ADAM, and therefore is NOT a true MAN, and the TRUE Christ, but is therefore a false CHRIST. 




WHAT CHRIST DO YOU KNOW?

Do not let Trinitarians deceive you by saying Jesus the MAN, STRIPED all His glory and His GOD nature by them using Philippians 2:7 saying:  he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
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Related article: 

John 6:38. How Did Jesus COME DOWN From Heaven If He Did NOT PRE-EXIST His flesh?

Philippians 2:6. Yet Again Used As Another TRINITARIAN DECEPTION and misunderstanding.

Philippians 2:7-8, Trinitarian DECEPTION, CONFUSION, and TRUTH.


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