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HOW DOES GODS NAME DISPROVE THE TRINITY?

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Notice how the HOLY SPIRIT of Yahweh is NEVER, EVER taught as being (A SEPARATE THIRD PERSON)

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A detailed Bible-study infographic examining whether Scripture presents the Holy Spirit of Yahweh as a separate third person. It compares 2 Samuel 23:2, John 4:24, Luke 1:35, Acts 2:33, Acts 10:38 and other passages describing God's own Spirit, presence, power and operation. Research by Simon Brown.

Question? DID GOD send a PREEXISTING Jesus?

Learn about WHY it is impossible for Jesus to be a PRE HUMAN, and be one of FEW who will overcome the enemies deceptions, when MOST are being deceived, with a FALSE PRE HUMAN JESUS.

In Deuteronomy 18:15 we read how Moses predicted the coming Messiah Jesus:
Yahweh your God, will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me. You shall listen to him.

Please make note within the verse: Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet?
We now turn to: Luke 2:52:
And Jesus continued, to advance, in wisdom and stature, and in favor, with God and men. Berean Literal Bible.

So within just two of many verses we read: Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet, Deuteronomy 18:15, and that He is Jesus (who) continued to advance in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.

Instantly, there is a great problem here.
If Jesus is the SAME ONE TRUE GOD, He then sent and raised up Himself, and continued to advance in wisdom and stature,  in favor with HIMSELF.

We know Deuteronomy 18:15 was a for filled prophecy of Jesus by going to the new testament  FULFILLMENT in John 1:45 saying:
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. 

And in Luke 24:27 we read:
Berean Literal Bible
And having begun from Moses and from all the Prophets, He interpreted to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.

DID GOD send a PREEXISTING Jesus?

Here are some OBVIOUS Facts to consider:

Notice, how we do NOT read ANYWHERE in the whole Bible, that GOD would send a PREEXISTING Jesus?

Notice, there is NOT a single word from GOD ANYWHERE in the whole Bible, saying Jesus was always ALIVE and WITH GOD, before ALL CREATION.

Notice, there is NOT a single word from or by Jesus saying He was  ALIVE and WITH GOD, before ALL CREATION.

Now there are verses like John 3:13, John 6:6, John 6:42, that are deceiving people because they are not understanding what Jesus truly meant by saying He came down from heaven,  believing Jesus meant  He was ALIVE before He was BORN, BECAUSE Jesus said he came down from heaven.
Please see my article below: John 6:38. How Did Jesus COME DOWN From Heaven If He Did NOT PRE-EXIST His flesh?

The Simple Biblical facts are:

IF Jesus was a preexisting Son, WHY would Jesus need to advance in wisdom and stature?

IF Jesus pre-existed BEFORE Creation and BEFORE all humans, Jesus would NOT need to advance in wisdom and stature.

Notice the Greek word for (σοφίᾳ wisdom) and means insight, skill (human or divine), intelligence.

IF Jesus pre-existed BEFORE Creation and BEFORE all Humans, Jesus would simply HAVE ALL WISDOM, and understanding, and knowledge and would NOT need to advance in wisdom and stature.

Again IF Jesus were GOD, Jesus would simply HAVE ALL WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING, and knowledge and would NOT need to advance in wisdom and stature, because GOD is ALL KNOWING and ALL WISDOM and ALL UNDERSTANDING, and ALL KNOWLEDGE.

Here are Just some verses about God being ALL KNOWING:
Great is our Lord, and mighty in power; His understanding has no limit. Psalm 147:5

Even before a word is on my tongue, You know all about it, O LORD. Psalm 139:4. 

Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will never grow faint or weary; His understanding is beyond searching out. Isaiah 40:28  

If Jesus pre existed His flesh, or was the same GOD He was BORN from, Jesus would have the SAME ALL KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING, and knowledge as GOD.

The TRINITY faith believe and teach Jesus is GOD the SON, who is co-equal along with the person of the Father & the Holy Spirit.

However this is again another GREAT TRINITARIAN contradiction.

Jesus confirmed His Father is greater proving they are NOT  co-equal proving He was NOT GOD by saying:
You heard me say to you, ‘I am going away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. John 14:28

Jesus also confirmed He did NOT have the SAME ALL KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING, and knowledge as GOD:
But concerning that day, and hour, no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. Matthew 24:36.

Jesus always taught, GOD was WITH Him, and In Him:  John 14:11
Berean Study Bible
Believe Me, that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me or at least, believe on account of the works themselves.

Jesus always taught, GOD was doing his works in Him, telling Him what to say, as we read in John 14:10:
Berean Literal Bible
Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I speak to you, I do not speak from Myself; but the Father dwelling in Me does His works.

If Jesus was GOD, or a PRE EXISTING HUMAN, and lived before all creatures and creation, then Jesus would simply KNOW what to say and speak, and therefor would not need his Father WITH Him, and In Him, and telling Him what to say and do.

The Biblical facts are SIMPLE.

As Jesus never, ever taught He was GOD.
Jesus also never, ever taught He was a PRE EXISTING ANGEL, or a PRE EXISTING SPIRIT  or a PRE EXISTING HUMAN.

Jesus ONLY ever taught He was a MAN:
but now you seek to kill me, a man, who has told you the truth, that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. John 8:40

But NOTICE how some translators have removed the words from the Greek text where Jesus said He is a MAN?

New Living Translation
Instead, you are trying to kill me because I told you the truth, which I heard from God. Abraham never did such a thing.

Contemporary English Version
Instead, you want to kill me for telling you the truth that God gave me. Abraham never did anything like that.

Good News Translation
All I have ever done is to tell you the truth I heard from God, yet you are trying to kill me. Abraham did nothing like this!

A PRE EXISTING Jesus, is NOT the second MAN ADAM, and therefore is NOT a true MAN, and the TRUE Christ, but is therefore a false CHRIST. 

WHAT CHRIST DO YOU KNOW?

Do not let Trinitarians deceive you by saying Jesus the MAN, STRIPED all His glory and His GOD nature by them using Philippians 2:7 saying:  he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.

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Why is "Yahweh'' called GOD Almighty?

A detailed Bible-study image examining Isaiah 44:24 and the identity of the Creator. Yahweh declares that He makes all things, stretches out the heavens alone, and spreads out the earth by Himself. Research by Simon Brown.

QUICK FACTS: WHO CREATED EVERYTHING?

Yahweh Says He Made All Things

Research by Simon Brown

The Bible gives an extraordinarily clear statement about creation:

“I am Yahweh, who makes all things; who alone stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth by myself.”

Isaiah 44:24 — WEB (Bible Gateway)

Notice exactly what Yahweh says:

“I AM YAHWEH.”

“WHO MAKES ALL THINGS.”

“WHO ALONE STRETCHES OUT THE HEAVENS.”

“WHO SPREADS OUT THE EARTH BY MYSELF.”

The verse therefore identifies Yahweh as the Creator and strongly emphasizes that He acted alone and by Himself.

This raises an important question when examining later Christian claims about Jesus creating the universe:

If Yahweh says He created all things alone and by Himself, how should we understand New Testament passages concerning creation and Jesus Christ?

That question must be answered by comparing all the biblical evidence, rather than beginning with a later theological doctrine and reading it back into Scripture.

Jesus himself identified his Father as:

“the only true God”

John 17:3

And Paul wrote:

“yet to us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things…”

1 Corinthians 8:6

These passages deserve to be considered alongside Isaiah 44:24 when asking:

WHO IS THE ONE TRUE CREATOR GOD?

For my fuller biblical research on this subject, follow the related studies linked below.

Research by Simon Brown

wwwrealdiscoveriesorg-simon.blogspot.com

Or you can watch my new video in HD here and see why “Yahweh’’ is called GOD Almighty? https://youtu.be/Z4Yy9Strp5k  

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The Pagan gods and The Catholic TRINITY, by Simon Brown.

What did Jesus mean? & Where is the separate third Godhead when He said: I and my Father are one, in John 10:30, or in John 1:1, or on Heaven’s Big Throne?

This Quick Facts Bible study examines Jesus’ statement, “I and My Father are one” in John 10:30. Jesus did not say, “I and My Father are one God.” John 17 shows Jesus praying that His disciples would also be one, just as He and His Father are one. The study also asks why the Holy Spirit is not mentioned in John 10:30 or John 1:1 if these verses are presented as proof of a three-person Trinity.

QUICK FACTS ONLY: What Did Jesus Mean by “I and My Father Are One”?

Jesus said:

“I and my Father are one.” — John 10:30

This verse is often used as evidence that Jesus and his Father are one God. But notice something very important:

Jesus did not say:

“I and my Father are one God.”

He simply said:

“I and my Father are one.”

QUICK FACT 1 — Jesus Explained His Meaning

Only a few verses later, Jesus explained his relationship with his Father:

“The Father is in me, and I am in the Father.” — John 10:38

Jesus therefore described a profound unity between himself and his Father.

QUICK FACT 2 — Jesus Used the Same Language About His Disciples

In John 17, Jesus prayed that his followers would also become one:

“That they may be one, even as we are one.” — John 17:11

And:

“That they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you.” — John 17:21

Obviously, Jesus was not asking for all his disciples to become one literal person or one God.

His prayer shows that “one” can describe profound unity, fellowship and shared purpose while those involved remain distinct.

QUICK FACT 3 — Where Is the Third Person in John 10:30?

If John 10:30 is being used specifically as a description of the three-person Trinity, an obvious question arises:

Where is the Holy Spirit?

Jesus mentions only:

1. Himself — the Son

2. His Father

There is no third person mentioned in John 10:30.

This does not by itself prove that the Holy Spirit cannot be a distinct person; it does show that John 10:30 alone is not a statement defining a three-person Godhead.

QUICK FACT 4 — What About John 1:1?

John 1:1 speaks of:

“the Word”

and:

“God.”

Whatever interpretation one adopts concerning the Word, the verse itself does not explicitly present three persons or give a three-person definition of God.

The Holy Spirit is not mentioned in John 1:1.

Therefore, John 1:1 cannot, by itself, provide the complete doctrine later called the Trinity.

QUICK FACT 5 — What About Heaven’s Great Throne?

The same question can be asked when examining biblical visions of God's throne.

If someone claims that Father, Son and Holy Spirit must always be understood as three coequal divine persons, we should carefully examine how Scripture actually describes the heavenly throne rather than assuming that later theological terminology appears in the text.

The important question is:

Who does Scripture actually identify as sitting on the throne, who is distinguished from Him, and how is the Holy Spirit described?

Those passages deserve to be examined individually rather than having the Trinity read into them beforehand.

QUICK FACT CONCLUSION

When Jesus said:

“I and my Father are one,”

he did not say:

“I and my Father are one God.”

And his prayer that his disciples might be “one, even as we are one” provides important context for understanding what this language of unity can mean.

Furthermore, John 10:30 does not mention the Holy Spirit at all, and neither does John 1:1.

So these verses may be used as part of a broader theological argument for the Trinity, but neither verse, standing alone, states the doctrine that God is three persons—Father, Son and Holy Spirit—in one God.

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