The MANY FALSE Translations of Proverbs 8:22:
Jehovah Witnesses own translation reads:
Jehovah (produced) me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago.
There are MANY more FALSE Translations of Proverbs 8:22 which read:
The LORD brought me forth, or formed me, or created me, or created me first, or made me. (Please see the full list of FALSE translations in my full article.
The CORRECT translation is seen in the World English Bible:
"Yahweh (possessed) me in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old.
Proverbs 8:22.
The Quick Facts:
Proverbs 8:22 is NOT referring to a second person who was created as many believe is Jesus, but is SUPER poetry by King Solomon and is INSTEAD referring to a personification of the (wisdom of God), personified as a woman.
Proverbs 8:22: Yahweh (possessed) meaning The One True GOD always acquired, always had, always possesses, always owned all divine WISDOM.
Note in Proverbs 3:19 how Yahweh's own divine WISDOM founded the earth, and NOT by or THROUGH a second person: By wisdom Yahweh founded the earth. By understanding, he established the heavens Proverbs 3:19
Note in Isaiah 44:24 how GOD tells us He ALONE, BY HIMSELF created all things:
Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and he who formed you from the womb: “ I am Yahweh, who makes all things; who ALONE stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth BY MYSELF. Isaiah 44:24
Full article here:
What Is The (Wisdom) In Proverbs 8?
Research By Simon Brown.
Proverbs 8: 1
Doesn't wisdom cry out? Doesn't understanding raise her voice?
2 On the top of high places by the way, where the paths meet, she stands.
3 Beside the gates, at the entry of the city, at the entry doors, she cries aloud.
We clearly see Proverbs 8 is a personification of GOD's (wisdom) as a woman: (her) voice, (she) cries aloud.
GOD tells us in Matthew 12:18, Matthew 17:5, Mark 1:11, Mark 9:7, Luke 3:22 and in Luke 9:35 Jesus is His (SON).
And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, "This is My Son, whom I have chosen; listen to Him!" Luke 9:35.
So can we all agree a (SON) grows up to become a MAN, and is not a woman or a female person or a (her) or a (she)?
There are two main beliefs about Proverbs 8.
Some Trinitarians believe Proverbs 8 is about Jesus, while other Trinitarian's do not, and instead correctly believe as I do, Proverbs 8 is a personification of the wisdom of God, personified as a woman.
First fact to consider:
As the (word) of GOD is never, ever a SECOND person in the old testament, but is the spoken (word) and commanded of GOD, just as we read in Psalm 33:6:
World English Bible:
By Yahweh’s word, the heavens were made; all their army by the breath of his mouth.
Second fact to consider:
The wisdom of GOD is also never, ever a SECOND person in the old testament, but is an attribute of GOD, as seen in Proverbs 3:19
By (wisdom) Yahweh founded the earth. By understanding, he established the heavens.
Notice we do not read by (the Son or by Jesus) the wisdom of Yahweh founded the earth.
And in the next part of the verse saying: By understanding, he established the heavens.
Notice how Solomon gives us the meaning of the (wisdom) of Yahweh, (understanding).
World English Bible
Yahweh, how many are your works! In (wisdom) have you made them all. The earth is full of your riches. Psalm 104:24.
We read again how Yahweh, In (wisdom) have made them all.
The Bible tells us Yahweh the one true GOD is the source of ALL knowledge, understanding and skill, hence, (wisdom).
To the only wise God be the glory to the ages of the ages, which is through Jesus Christ. Amen. Romans 16:27
To the only wise God be the glory to the ages of the ages, which is through Jesus Christ. Amen. Romans 16:27
Proverbs 8:22
"Yahweh (possessed) me in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old. World English Bible
Jehovah Witnesses believe Proverbs 8:22 is about Jesus, and say the verse proves Jesus was created, and pre-existed His flesh.
Their own translation reads: Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago.
There are many more false translations of Proverbs 8:22 like the translations below
New International Version
"The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old;
New Living Translation
“The LORD formed me from the beginning, before he created anything else.
Berean Study Bible
The LORD created me as His first course, before His works of old.
Good News Translation
"The LORD created me first of all, the first of his works, long ago.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
The LORD made me at the beginning of His creation, before His works of long ago.
International Standard Version
"The LORD made me as he began his planning, before his ancient activity commenced.
NET Bible
The LORD created me as the beginning of his works, before his deeds of long ago.
New Heart English Bible
"The LORD created me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation and from before all of his works.”
JPS Tanakh 1917
The LORD made me as the beginning of His way, The first of His works of old.
Brenton Septuagint Translation
The Lord made me the beginning of his ways for his works.
Here are some good and correct translations:
GOD'S WORD® Translation
"The LORD already possessed me long ago, when his way began, before any of his works.
English Standard Version
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old.
Douay-Rheims Bible
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his ways, before he made any thing from the beginning.
Darby Bible Translation
Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
English Revised Version
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Webster's Bible Translation
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
World English Bible
"Yahweh possessed me in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old.
Young's Literal Translation
Jehovah possessed me -- the beginning of His way, Before His works since then.
New American Standard 1977
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.
King James 2000 Bible
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
American King James Version
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
American Standard Version
Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old.
New American Standard Bible
"The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.
New King James Version
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.
King James Bible
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
Christian Standard Bible
"The LORD acquired me at the beginning of his creation, before his works of long ago.
Contemporary English Version
From the beginning, I was with the LORD. I was there before he began
As we see, the correct translation says:
"Yahweh (possessed) me in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old. World English Bible
We see in MOST of the translations the word: (possessed) is used, proving most of the translators agree this is the correct word: (possessed) and NOT the words saying: The LORD brought me forth, or formed me, or created me, or created me first, or made me.
Note how Proverbs 8:22 tells us Yahweh possessed me (WISDOM) in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old.
In other words Yahweh possessed (always had, and always acquired all (WISDOM).
All divine (wisdom comes from GOD.
He has filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all kinds of workmanship;
Exodus 35:31.
Most of the human population have some kind of human wisdom which has no benefits when their life has ended, but the FEW who seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness with all their heart receive divine Wisdom which is a gift from GOD that leads to all we need in life, leading to the ultimate gift from GOD of eternal life, through His Son Jesus Christ.
Proverbs 3:13 Blessed is He who Finds Wisdom
13 Happy is the man who finds wisdom, the man who gets understanding. 14 For her good profit is better than getting silver, and her return is better than fine gold.
15 She is more precious than rubies. None of the things you can desire are to be compared to her.
16 Length of days is in her right hand. In her left hand are riches and honor.
17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness. All her paths are peace. 18 She is a tree of life to those who lay hold of her. Happy is everyone who retains her.
1 For I want you to know how great a struggle I am having for you, and those in Laodicea, and as many as have not seen my face in the flesh, 2 that their hearts may be encouraged, having been knit together in love, and to all the riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, which is Christ, 3 in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and of knowledge. Colossians 2:
By GOD through Jesus they give us divine Wisdom/Understanding and Knowledge and the Skills in Knowing the Purpose of Life.
And show us amazing hidden secrets, which is one of the main reasons why most of the human race are so confused and have no true understanding of GOD, or Jesus or the creation of the world, and the reasons we exist.
Proverbs 3:13 Blessed is He who Finds Wisdom
13 Happy is the man who finds wisdom, the man who gets understanding. 14 For her good profit is better than getting silver, and her return is better than fine gold.
15 She is more precious than rubies. None of the things you can desire are to be compared to her.
16 Length of days is in her right hand. In her left hand are riches and honor.
17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness. All her paths are peace. 18 She is a tree of life to those who lay hold of her. Happy is everyone who retains her.
Jesus said in Matthew 6: 28
And why do you worry about clothing? Consider carefully how the lilies of the field grow: They do not labor nor do they spin. 29 Yet I say to you that not even Solomon in all his glory was adorned like one of these. 30 But if God thus clothes the grass of the field, existing today and tomorrow being thrown into the furnace, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ Or ‘What shall we drink?’ Or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things. For your Heavenly Father knows that you have need of them all.
33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Sufficient to the day is its own trouble.
1 For I want you to know how great a struggle I am having for you, and those in Laodicea, and as many as have not seen my face in the flesh, 2 that their hearts may be encouraged, having been knit together in love, and to all the riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, which is Christ, 3 in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and of knowledge. Colossians 2:
By GOD through Jesus they give us divine Wisdom/Understanding and Knowledge and the Skills in Knowing the Purpose of Life.
And show us amazing hidden secrets, which is one of the main reasons why most of the human race are so confused and have no true understanding of GOD, or Jesus or the creation of the world, and the reasons we exist.
For Yahweh gives wisdom. Out of his mouth comes knowledge and understanding. Proverbs 2:6
World English Bible
The fear of Yahweh is the beginning of knowledge; but the foolish despise wisdom and instruction.
Proverbs 1:7
The fear of Yahweh is the beginning of wisdom. The knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
Proverbs 9:10
World English Bible
To man he said, 'Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom. To depart from evil is understanding.'"
Job 28:28
Jesus said in Matthew 10:28:
And you should not be afraid of those killing the body but not being able to kill the soul. Indeed rather you should (fear) the One being able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:31
it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:31
World English Bible
Yahweh, how many are your works! In wisdom have you made them all. The earth is full of your riches.
Psalm 104:24.
Yahweh, how many are your works! In wisdom have you made them all. The earth is full of your riches.
Psalm 104:24.
Proverbs 2: World English Bible The Benefits of Wisdom
1 My son, if you will receive my words, and store up my commandments within you; 2 So as to turn your ear to wisdom, and apply your heart to understanding; 3 Yes, if you call out for discernment, and lift up your voice for understanding; 4 If you seek her as silver, and search for her as for hidden treasures: 5 then you will understand the fear of Yahweh, and find the knowledge of God. 6 For Yahweh gives wisdom. Out of his mouth comes knowledge and understanding. 7 He lays up sound wisdom for the upright. He is a shield to those who walk in integrity; 8 that he may guard the paths of justice, and preserve the way of his saints. 9 Then you will understand righteousness and justice, equity and every good path. 10 For wisdom will enter into your heart. Knowledge will be pleasant to your soul. 11 Discretion will watch over you. Understanding will keep you, 12 to deliver you from the way of evil, from the men who speak perverse things; 13 who forsake the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness; 14 who rejoice to do evil, and delight in the perverseness of evil; 15 who are crooked in their ways, and wayward in their paths: 16 To deliver you from the strange woman, even from the foreigner who flatters with her words; 17 who forsakes the friend of her youth, and forgets the covenant of her God: 18 for her house leads down to death, her paths to the dead. 19 None who go to her return again, neither do they attain to the paths of life: 20 that you may walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous. 21 For the upright will dwell in the land. The perfect will remain in it. 22 But the wicked will be cut off from the land. The treacherous will be rooted out of it.
We clearly and plainly see how (Wisdom) In the old testament is never a second person, but is a divine attribute of GOD, given to us by the Spirit of God, now given through His Son, when we: Ask, Seek, and Knock (Luke 11:5-13)
Matthew 7:7 Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and it will be opened unto you. 8 For everyone asking receives; and the one seeking finds; and to the one knocking, it will be opened. 9 Or which man is among you who, if his son will ask for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or also, if he will ask for a fish, will give him a serpent? 11 Therefore, if you, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in the heavens give good things to those asking Him!
We clearly and plainly see how (Wisdom) In the old testament is never a second person, but is a divine attribute of GOD, given to us by the Spirit of God, now given through His Son, when we: Ask, Seek, and Knock (Luke 11:5-13)
Matthew 7:7 Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and it will be opened unto you. 8 For everyone asking receives; and the one seeking finds; and to the one knocking, it will be opened. 9 Or which man is among you who, if his son will ask for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or also, if he will ask for a fish, will give him a serpent? 11 Therefore, if you, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in the heavens give good things to those asking Him!
King Solomon.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Notice how the fabulously wealthy and wise king Solomon was the biblical king most famous for his wisdom. In 1 Kings he sacrificed to God, and God later appeared to him in a dream, asking what Solomon wanted from God. Solomon asked for wisdom. Pleased, God personally answered Solomon's prayer, promising him great wisdom because he did not ask for self-serving rewards like long life or the death of his enemies.
The Judgment of Solomon, painting on ceramic, Castelli, 18th century, Lille Museum of Fine Arts
Solomon was the biblical king most famous for his wisdom. In 1 Kings he sacrificed to God, and God later appeared to him in a dream,asking what Solomon wanted from God. Solomon asked for wisdom. Pleased, God personally answered Solomon's prayer, promising him great wisdom because he did not ask for self-serving rewards like long life or the death of his enemies.
Perhaps the best known story of his wisdom is the Judgment of Solomon; two women each lay claim to being the mother of the same child. Solomon easily resolved the dispute by commanding the child to be cut in half and shared between the two. One woman promptly renounced her claim, proving that she would rather give the child up than see it killed. Solomon declared the woman who showed compassion to be the true mother, entitled to the whole child.
Solomon was a "Type" of Christ.
Notice in Luke 2:52 how we read Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, which would not be the case if Jesus was already the WISDOM of GOD in Proverbs 8:22:
Berean Literal Bible
And Jesus continued to advance in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men. Luke 2:52
Notice in 1 Corinthians 1:30 how we read Jesus BECAME the wisdom of GOD:
Berean Literal Bible
But out of Him, you are in Christ Jesus, (who has been made unto us wisdom from God), and righteousness and sanctification and redemption,
1 Corinthians 1:30.
In fact there are many translations that say just that: who (BECAME) to us wisdom from God).
English Standard Version
And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, (who became to us wisdom from God), righteousness and sanctification and redemption.
We clearly read and see as Jesus was BORN and became the (word) of GOD, BORN as a MAN John 1:14, Jesus also grew in wisdom and stature, and BECAME the power and Wisdom of GOD.
Berean Literal Bible
but those called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 1 Corinthians 1:24
Obvious fact.
If Jesus was the WISDOM in Proverbs 8, then there would be many scriptures and teachings confirming GOD was working THROUGH His Son as His Mediator.
Yet when we CAREFULLY examine the scriptures we discover they are misunderstood, or taken out of context, or are simply false Translations that most use to prove Jesus was WITH GOD before all creation,
Let's see and start from the beginning. Genesis 1:1.
In the beginning (God elohim) created the heavens and the earth.
In the beginning (God elohim) created the heavens and the earth.
Notice the Hebrew Word: אֱלהִים elohim is a singular verb for GOD and NOT plural for GODS or persons.
And we never, ever read ANYWHERE in the Old Testament saying: In the beginning (WE, or US) created the heavens and the earth, as we would expect to read if Jesus was WITH GOD.
God of Israel, with singular verb.
In the Hebrew Bible Elohim, when meaning the God of Israel, is mostly grammatically singular. Even in Genesis 1:26 "Then God said (singular verb), 'Let us make (plural verb) man in our image, after our likeness'", Elohim is singular. Wilhelm Gesenius and other Hebrew grammarians traditionally described this as the pluralis excellentiae (plural of excellence), which is similar to the pluralis majestatis (plural of majesty, or "Royal we").[11]
MOST believe GOD was talking to Jesus and the Holy Spirit when He said (Let Us)?
However the very next verse of Genesis 1:27 proves GOD ALONE created all things:
Berean Study Bible:
So (God) created man in (His) own image; in the image of (God He) created him; male and female (He) created them.
Notice the SINGLE person of GOD the Father ALONE created man in His Image.
If Jesus and a separate person of the Holy Spirit were with GOD doing the creating with GOD,
then we would simply read Genesis 1:27 saying:
And (WE) created man in (OUR) Image and NOT the singular word GOD with the singular word (HE) and (HIM).
Genesis 1:27 also agrees with countless other scriptures saying GOD ALONE CREATED ALL THINGS which never mentions Jesus or a separate person of the Holy Spirit.
Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and he who formed you from the womb: “ I am Yahweh, who makes all things; who alone stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth by myself;
Isaiah 44:24
GOD always taught there was NO ONE WITH HIM, helping Him or that He was working THROUGH anyone when He was doing the creating, but that He was ALONE, BY HIMSELF when He created all things Isaiah 44:24
Isaiah 37:16.
God always says He is GOD ALONE and NOT THREE PERSONS Isaiah 45:12.
Also notice GOD the father’s name Yahweh is in the Hebrew translation, but has been removed from the modern translations, to deceive people from knowing this verse is referring to GOD the Father Yahweh alone is the ONLY TRUE GOD ALONE, who is ONE BEING ALONE and the Creator ALONE.
Notice GOD says He was alone and created all things by Himself, and does not mention Jesus and a separate person of the Holy Spirit.
We see again GOD is singular, and ALONE, and NO one WITH Him, by the fact He says (MY HANDS) and (I).
Proverbs 8:30
then I was the craftsman by his side. I was a delight day by day, always rejoicing before him,
Jehovah Witnesses also believe Proverbs 8:30 proves GOD was working THROUGH Jesus as His craftsman by his side and as His Mediator.
And yet there is not a single word by Jesus saying He was WITH GOD before all creation, or that He was WITH GOD and was the craftsman by his side.
There is one verse that most of Christianity use and believe which was said by Jesus in John 17:5 that most believe proves Jesus was WITH GOD before creation saying: And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You before the world existed.
Full article here: https://wwwrealdiscoveriesorg-simon.blogspot.com/2019/06/john-175-yet-again-another-trinitarian.html
God only ever taught His word was His own command that came out from the breath of his mouth Psalm 33:6, proving the word was never a second person until Jesus was born in John 1:14.
By Yahweh’s word, the heavens were made; all their army by the breath of his mouth.
Psalm 33:6.
and the (word) became flesh
John 1:14.
Notice how we read John 1:14 saying the (word) became flesh, meaning GODS spoken (word) became a physical, walking living (PERSON) as the MAN Jesus.
Notice how we do not read John 1:14 saying GOD's pre-existing Son became flesh, which is what most wrongly teach that a pre-existing Son changed into the baby Jesus and would be the case if a pre-existing being did become flesh as wrongly taught by most.
Notice how we do not read John 1:14 saying GOD's pre-existing Son became flesh, which is what most wrongly teach that a pre-existing Son changed into the baby Jesus and would be the case if a pre-existing being did become flesh as wrongly taught by most.
and the (word) became flesh
John 1:14.
Notice how John 1:14 did NOT say: GOD BECAME FLESH, which is what most wrongly teach that GOD became flesh, and would be the case if GOD did become flesh as wrongly taught by most.
My research proves by seeing the simple Biblical facts that Jesus is NOT the WISDOM in Proverbs 8, but that Jesus BECAME the WISDOM of His GOD.
Berean Literal Bible
And the Child continued to grow and become strong, being filled with wisdom. And the grace of God was upon Him.
Luke 2:40
Prophecy:
World English Bible
The Spirit of Yahweh will rest on him: the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Yahweh.
Isaiah 11:2.
Prophecy fulfilled:
Berean Literal Bible
And immediately, having been baptized, Jesus went up from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and alighting upon Him.
Matthew 3:16
Receiving the WISDOM of GOD through Jesus is truly life changing.
Receiving the WISDOM of GOD through Jesus is truly life changing.
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