John 14:9. Yet again another MASSIVE Trinitarian confusion Creating a TRINITARIAN deception.

Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 

These words by Jesus in John 14:9 are used by believers in the TRINITY faith.

The Oneness Pentecostal faith also believe this proves GOD the Father is Jesus.

When the TRINITY faith use this verse, they are in fact proving with their own hands how deceived and confused they are.

Here’s why.

The TRINITY faith.

The foundations of the TRINITY faith is built on believing the ONE TRUE GOD is THREE persons.

Followed by them believing the Father is not the Son, and the Holy Spirit is not the father, or the Spirit is not the Son, and they are all SEPARATE beings, but ONE and the same GOD according to the TRINITY.

Just as we see in the Catholic Trinity diagram below.

As we see in the Catholic Trinity diagram, that is the ONLY part that says the Father and the Son are not the same person but are SEPARATE persons.

This part showing Father and Son as separate beings in the TRINITY faith is in agreement with what Jesus taught that Jesus never ever taught He was or is the Father.

But the rest is false and is often the case that truth is mixed with untrue facts. 

Jesus and the Father are NOT one GOD and the Holy Spirit is NOT a separate person.

As we have seen above, the foundations of the TRINITY faith, believe and teach Father, Son, and Spirit are all SEPARATE persons.

The first Trinitarian contradiction.

We therefore NOW clearly SEE how some Trinitarians are in fact CONTRADICTING the foundations of their own TRINITY faith with what they believe and teach.

Simply because the very confused Trinitarians are now saying in one hand that these words by Jesus is teaching Jesus and the Father are ONE and the same person and not SEPARATE persons as taught by themselves in their other hand as seen in their own confession of their TRINITY diagram.

As Jesus said: Whoever has seen me has seen the Father, does not mean Jesus was saying He and the Father are the SAME person.

But therefore proves again how these Trinitarians have again become muddled and do not know what Jesus meant which I will explain shortly.

Notice, Jesus said; Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father? And yet the very confused Trinitarians who use this verse say this verse proves Jesus is the Father.

And yet the foundation of the TRINITY faith do not believe Jesus is the Father, or that the Father is the Son.

Notice, Jesus does NOT say: Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen: GOD? 

Or: Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen: that I and the Father are ONE GOD.

Or: Philip? Whoever has seen me: has seen we are the SAME PERSON.

If Jesus is the Father or GOD, this is what Jesus would be saying if He were claiming to be the Father or GOD, and would say: Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen GOD.

Notice there is NOT a single word by Jesus saying: Whoever has seen me has seen GOD. If there was, we would know Jesus is also the same GOD.

The second Trinitarian contradiction.

After Jesus had been and gone, when thousands of people HAD ALREADY SEEN JESUS, St John taught us: NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN GOD. John 1:18.

Contradicting what the TRINITY faith teaches, who teach on the contrary that thousands of people HAVE SEEN GOD, IF Jesus is GOD.

The confused Trinitarians say John 14:9, proves Jesus is the Father.

Again CONTRADICTING what Jesus taught when He said: 

not that anyone has seen the Father except he who is from God; he has seen the Father. John 6:46.

The third Trinitarian contradiction.

As Jesus always taught that He is a SEPARATE being from the Father, and the Trinitarians also believe and teach Jesus and the Father are SEPARATE beings, this means the confused Trinitarians who say this verse proves Jesus is the Father are contradicting the foundations of their own faith and are now teaching Jesus and the Father are NOT SEPARATE beings, but instead ONE person.

The forth Trinitarian contradiction.

If Jesus is a SEPARATE person, as the TRINITY faith RIGHTLY believe with what Jesus taught, then their own TRINITY faith CONTRADICTS their own faith, and teachers instead, there are TWO GODS, and not ONE GOD, which they refuse to admit,  because they have become dull of hearing. 

What then did Jesus mean when He said: if they have seen Him, then they have seen the Father? THE SIMPLE ANSWER is by Jesus Himself in John 12:45:

As some are confused with John 14:9, they may get confused with what Jesus meant in John 12:45, so lets see what Jesus meant in the verse above?

Answer: 

John 1:14:

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

They said to him therefore, “Where is your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”John 8:19.

And they will do these things because they have not known the Father, nor me John 16:3.

But why did Jesus say to the unbelieving Jews; “You know neither me nor my Father.

Because the unbelieving Jews did not believe Jesus when He taught that He is the literal Son of GOD.

And therefore did not understand Jesus has all His Fathers image and nature.

Just as certain Trinitarians who also do not understand what Jesus taught when Jesus said: Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 

If all Trinitarians did their Bible studying they would also understand what Jesus meant when He said: Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 

Let's do what most Trinitarians do not do and look at the scriptures below to see what Jesus meant by saying: Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 

Answers:

1.         He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Colossians 1:15.

2.         In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 2 Corinthians 4:4 3. 

3.         He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, Hebrews 1:3.

4. Jesus also taught that His Father was in Him doing His works, and that everything the Father did, Jesus did.

Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. John 14:10.

Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves. John 14:11.

As GOD is in His Son Jesus, we can now understand why Jesus said: Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Whoever has seen the Father was NOT because Jesus is GOD as the TRINITY wrongly teach, but because Jesus is IDENTICAL to His GOD, and GOD the Father can be seen in His Son, and because the Father is in His Son.

If we were to see Jesus, we would be seeing the physical form of GOD, not because Jesus is GOD, but because Jesus has all of GODS nature.

This is why St Paul said: who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped. Philippians 2:6.

There we have the Biblical facts. This is WHY Jesus said: if you have seen Him, then you have seen the Father. Because Jesus is the image of the invisible God and the exact imprint of his nature in physical form of GOD. 

John 14:9, has NOTHING to do with proving Jesus is THE GOD.

As Jesus is the IMAGE of His GOD, the Biblical fact proves Jesus is NOT that SAME GOD, but is the nature of GOD.

If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” John 14:7.

Because Jesus was BORN directly from His GOD, He is therefore just like His GOD.