What do Trinitarians believe regarding Proverbs 30:4?
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As we have seen, MANY use this scripture to prove Jesus is an eternal Son in the Godhead, and was WITH GOD before He was Begotten by GOD.
However, the whole verse is referring to GOD the Father, as seen in many scriptures like below:
Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Proverbs 30:4?
Answer:
Yahweh descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of Yahweh. Exodus 34:5
Yahweh said to Moses, "Behold, I come to you in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with you, and may also believe you forever." Moses told the words of the people to Yahweh. Exodus 19:9
Who has gathered the wind in His hands? Who has bound up the waters in His cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, Proverbs 30:4?
Answers:
Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and marked off the sky with his span, and calculated the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance? Isaiah 40:12
He binds up the waters in his thick clouds, and the cloud is not burst under them. Job 26:8.
He covers himself with light as with a garment. He stretches out the heavens like a curtain. Psalm 104:2.
It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in; Isaiah 40:22.
What is His name, Proverbs 30:4?
Answer:
Yahweh descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of Yahweh. Exodus 34:5
and what is the name of His Son—surely you know! Proverbs 30:4?
Answer:
As Jesus is NOT yet Begotten, this then cannot refer to Jesus, but refers to Exodus 4/22:
You shall tell Pharaoh, ‘Thus says Yahweh, Israel is my son, my firstborn.
You are the children of Yahweh your God: you shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead. Deuteronomy 14:1
"Say to your brothers, 'My people!' and to your sisters, ‘My loved one!' Hosea 2:1.
As we see Proverbs 30:4 saying: and what is the name of His Son —surely you know! Is referring to Israel is my son, my firstborn. Exodus 4/22.
Fact, there is NOT is single word of GOD throughout the WHOLE Bible, where He is talking and communicating WITH His Son Jesus, as we would expect if Jesus was WITH GOD before all creation.
Proverbs 30:4 is yet again misunderstood by MOST.
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