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Proverbs 8:34-36 Blessed is the man who hears me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at my door posts. For whoever finds me finds life, and will obtain favor from Yahweh. But he who sins against me wrongs his own soul. All those who hate me love death.” Psalm 84: 11 For Yahweh God is a sun and a shield. Yahweh will give grace and glory. He withholds no good thing from those who walk blamelessly. 12 Yahweh of Armies, blessed is the man who trusts in you. 1 John 5:5 Now who is the one overcoming the world, except the one believing that Jesus is the Son of God?

Tuesday, 4 August 2020

The Correct meaning of Revelation 3:14.

Revelation 3:14

Berean Literal Bible
And to the messenger of the church in Laodicea write: These things says the Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of God's creation.

Most Christians believe Revelation 3:14 is saying Jesus is the creator or is the BEGINNING of GOD's GENESIS creation.

Let's be sure and read what Revelation 3:14 is about.
 
First what do Trinitarian's say believe and teach.

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers tells us:
The beginning (better, the origination) of the creation of God.--This title of our Lord does not occur in the Epistles to the other churches, but very closely resembles the language used by St. Paul in writing to the Colossians (Colossians 1:15-18). The "beginning," not meaning that Christ was the first among the created, but that He was the origination, or primary source of all creation. By Him were all things made (John 1:1-3 : comp. Colossians 1:15; Colossians 1:18), not with Him, but by Him creation began. In short, the word "beginning" (like the word "faithful") must be understood in an active sense. He has originating power (Acts 3:14) as well as priority of existence. The appropriateness of its use will be seen when we remember that the Laodicean Church was exposed to the temptation of worshipping inferior principalities. (See Colossians 1:16; Colossians 2:15, where the plural of the word here rendered "beginning," or origin, is used, and is translated "principalities.")

And Pulpit Commentary tells us:
The Beginning of the creation of God. There are two ways in which these words might be understood:

(1) that in which "beginning" is taken in a passive sense, and which would therefore make Christ the first created thing of all the things which God created;

(2) the active sense, by which Christ is described as the Beginner, the Author, Moving Principle or Source of all the things which God created. That the latter meaning is the true one is plain from the whole tenor of Holy Scripture. The Ariaus, attempting to disprove the Divinity of our Lord, quoted this passage, attributing to it the former sense. But ἀρχή is often used actively, and may well be so used here - a view which is confirmed by the abundant evidence of our Lord's Divinity found elsewhere in the Bible, and nowhere more plainly asserted than in the writings of St. John. The self-reliant Laodiceans are thus directed to place their trust in him who is the Source of all things, rather than in those created things of which he is the Creator.

What do Jehovah’s Witnesses believe?
Please note on the web site of Jehovah’s Witnesses https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/revelation/3/ that they believe Revelation 3:14 means Jesus was (produced) created by GOD as the firstborn of all creation;

Ref 3:14d Pr 8:22; Col 1:15
Proverbs 8:22
General
22  Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way,
The earliest of his achievements of long ago.
Colossians 1:15
General
15  He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;

As we have seen and confirmed how MOST Christians believe Revelation 3:14 is about Jesus being the primary source of all GENESIS creation. 
Most Christians and most Trinitarians use the verses of (John 1:1-3, (Colossians 1:15-18) to confirm ALL things where made (By) Him (Jesus) meaning all the original GENESIS creation.

Jehovah’s Witnesses
And Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Revelation 3:14 means Jesus was (produced) created by GOD as the firstborn of all creation, and use the verses of Proverbs 8:22 and Colossians 1:15

Please hold my hand as I take you to see the Biblical facts and reveal to you how MOST of Christianity are confused with what the verses of Revelation 3:14, John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:15-18, and Proverbs 8:22 actually mean.

Let's start off with looking at the Greek word ἀρχὴ for (Beginning). 

Is ἀρχὴ for (Beginning) the correct word?

On my search I discovered the word for (Beginning) is the Greek word ἀρχὴ (archē), and has 12 Occurrences said in the Englishman's Concordance.

Let's have a look:

◄ ἀρχὴ ►
Englishman's Concordance
ἀρχὴ (archē) — 12 Occurrences
Matthew 24:8 N-NFS
GRK: δὲ ταῦτα ἀρχὴ ὠδίνων
NAS: these things are [merely] the beginning of birth pangs.
KJV: these [are] the beginning of sorrows.
INT: moreover these [are] a beginning of birth pains
Mark 1:1 N-NFS
GRK: ΑΡΧΗ τοῦ εὐαγγελίου
NAS: The beginning of the gospel of Jesus
KJV: The beginning of the gospel of Jesus
INT: BEGINNING of the gospel
Mark 13:8 N-NFS
GRK: ἔσονται λιμοί ἀρχὴ ὠδίνων ταῦτα
NAS: These things are [merely] the beginning of birth pangs.
KJV: these [are] the beginnings of sorrows.
INT: there will be famines Beginnings of birth pains [are] these
Luke 20:20 N-DFS
GRK: αὐτὸν τῇ ἀρχῇ καὶ τῇ
NAS: that they [could] deliver Him to the rule and the authority
KJV: him unto the power and
INT: him to the rule and to the
John 1:1 N-DFS
GRK: ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ἦν ὁ
NAS: In the beginning was the Word,
KJV: In the beginning was the Word,
INT: In [the] beginning was the
John 1:2 N-DFS
GRK: ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν
NAS: He was in the beginning with God.
KJV: was in the beginning with God.
INT: was in [the] beginning with
Acts 11:15 N-DFS
GRK: ἡμᾶς ἐν ἀρχῇ
NAS: upon them just as [He did] upon us at the beginning.
KJV: us at the beginning.
INT: us in [the] beginning
Philippians 4:15 N-DFS
GRK: ὅτι ἐν ἀρχῇ τοῦ εὐαγγελίου
NAS: Philippians, that at the first preaching of the gospel,
KJV: in the beginning of the gospel,
INT: that in [the] beginning of the gospel
Colossians 1:18 N-NFS
GRK: ἐστιν ἡ ἀρχή πρωτότοκος ἐκ
NAS: the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn
KJV: is the beginning, the firstborn
INT: is the beginning firstborn from among
Revelation 3:14 N-NFS
GRK: ἀληθινός ἡ ἀρχὴ τῆς κτίσεως
NAS: Witness, the Beginning of the creation
KJV: witness, the beginning of the creation
INT: true the beginning of the creation
Revelation 21:6 N-NFS
GRK: Ὦ ἡ ἀρχὴ καὶ τὸ
NAS: and the Omega, the beginning and the end.
KJV: and Omega, the beginning and the end.
INT: Omega the beginning and the
Revelation 22:13 N-NFS
GRK: ἔσχατος ἡ ἀρχὴ καὶ τὸ
NAS: and the last, the beginning and the end.
KJV: and Omega, the beginning and the end,
INT: last the beginning and the

As we see, there are 11 verses which use the Greek word ἀρχὴ for (Beginning), and one verse that use's the word (rule).

The HELPS Word-studies tells us the meaning of (Beginning):

746 arxḗ – properly, from the beginning (temporal sense), i.e. "the initial (starting) point"; (figuratively) what comes first and therefore is chief (foremost), i.e. has the priority because ahead of the rest ("preeminent").

As we see, I believe it is safe to say the correct word is certainly (Beginning), and simply means: the initial (starting) point.

Berean Literal Bible
And to the messenger of the church in Laodicea write: These things says the Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of God's creation.

Who is talking in Revelation 3:14?

The answer is given by John in Revelation 1: in his vision on Patmos:

9 I John, your brother and fellow-partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance in Jesus, was in the island called Patmos on account of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. 10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, like that of a trumpet, 11 saying, “What you see, write in a book and send to the seven churches: to Ephesus, and to Smyrna, and to Pergamum, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”
12 And I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me. And having turned, I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the lampstands, One like the Son of Man, having been clothed to the feet, and having been girded about at the breasts with a golden sash. 14 Now His head and His hairs are white like wool, white as snow; and His eyes are like a flame of fire; 15 and His feet are like fine bronze, as having been refined in a furnace; and His voice is like the voice of many waters; 16 and He is holding in His right hand seven stars, and a sharp two-edged sword is going forth out of His mouth; and His face is like the sun shining in its full strength.
17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as though dead. And He placed His right hand upon me, saying, “Fear not. I am the First and the Last, 18 and the Living One. And I was dead, and behold I am living to the ages of the ages, and I have the keys of Death and of Hades.
19 Therefore write the things that you have seen, and the things that are, and the things that are about to take place after these, 20 the mystery of the seven stars, which you saw on My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

As we see Jesus is talking to John in a vision by the fact we read John saying in verse 13: One like the Son of Man, and then we read John saying in verse 17: And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as though dead. And He placed His right hand upon me, saying, “Fear not. I am the First and the Last, 18and the Living One. And I was dead, and behold I am living to the ages of the ages, and I have the keys of Death and of Hades.

So we now know from above the person who is speaking in Revelation 1 is Jesus talking to John in a vision.

And we have also previously seen the word (Beginning) certainly and simply means: the initial (starting) point.

But WHY does Revelation 3:14 tell us Jesus is the (Beginning)?

Could most of Christianity be correct saying and believing the verses of Revelation 3:14, confirm with John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:15-18, that Jesus is the primary source of all the GENESIS creation, and that ALL things where made (By) Him (Jesus)?

The simple answer to WHO is the actual creator of ALL things, and WHO is the source of all the GENESIS creation, is given by Yahweh, the ONE TRUE GOD and Father Himself in many verses like Isaiah 44:24

If Jesus was WITH GOD in John 17:5, then WHERE IS JESUS or the SEPARATE Holy Spirit when GOD created ALL THINGS in the GENESIS creation?

Let's see  IF JESUS or the SEPARATE Holy Spirit is in the verses below?

World English Bible
Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and he who formed you from the womb: "I am Yahweh, who makes all things; who alone stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth by myself; Isaiah 44:24.

Notice how Yahweh tells us He created ALL THINGS ALONE, BY MYSELF.
Isaiah 44:24.

The truth is, NEVER, EVER does Yahweh, the ONE TRUE GOD and Father ever say or teach ANYWHERE in the whole Bible He created ALL THINGS in the GENESIS creation by or through His Son Jesus, or with help from anyone.

Thus says God Yahweh, (Notice we ALWAYS read God Yahweh ALONE) he who created the heavens and stretched them out, he who spread out the earth and that which comes out of it, he who gives breath to its people and spirit to those who walk in it. Isaiah 42:5.

Notice yet again in the verse above of Isaiah 42:5 Jesus is NOT there YET, but GOD Yahweh ALONE, who created the heavens and stretched them out, (he) who spread out the earth.

Notice again in Isaiah 45:12 how we read GOD Yahweh ALONE, who created ALL THINGS BY HIMSELF:
I have made the earth, and created man on it. I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens; and I have commanded all their army.

When referring to GOD the SINGULAR words for (I and HE)
are always used and never do we read or see (WE) or (US) when the Bible speaks of who is the creator.

Notice Jesus is NOT yet BORN because GOD does NOT say His SON was WITH Him, or helping Him doing the creating.

We clearly and plainly read GOD or the Bible saying the singular words for (I, MY HANDS, BY HIMSELF) created all things.

If the TRINITY faith were correct then we would read GOD saying WE, US, TOGETHER WE CREATED ALL THINGS.

BUT WE NEVER EVER READ GOD SAYING THERE WAS ANYONE WITH HIM DOING THE CREATING, AND ONLY EVER READ GOD ALONE MADE ALL THINGS, WHICH SIMPLY PROVES THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT A SEPARATE PERSON, AND JESUS WAS NOT YET WITH GOD IN GENESIS.

SO WHERE IS JESUS or the SEPARATE Holy Spirit in the verses ABOVE as taught in the TRINITY?

More questions PLEASE below?

WHERE does Jesus say I MADE ALL THINGS IN Mark 10:6

Berean Literal Bible
but from the beginning of creation, 'He made them male and female.'

New American Standard Bible
"But from the beginning of creation, God MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE.

New King James Version
But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’

Notice how Jesus Himself says (HE) meaning GOD (ALONE) MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE.

And answering He said, "Have you not read that the One having created from the beginning 'made them male and female Matthew 19:4

We yet AGAIN read in Matthew 19:4 how Jesus tells us WHO IS THE CREATOR and that: the One (MEANING GOD ALONE) having created from the beginning 'made them male and female.

Notice how Jesus Himself does NOT SAY: WE, or US, ALL THREE TOGETHER: created from the beginning 'made them male and female, as would be the case if GOD truly was THREE called the TRINITY.

1. As GOD WAS ALONE THEN WHERE IS JESUS IF JESUS WAS WITH GOD IN JOHN 17:5?

John 17:5

And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You before the world existed.

Having Glory with GOD John 17:5 before the world was created does not mean one was ALIVE with GOD before the world was created.

Jesus did NOT say: And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You (WHEN I WAS WITH YOU, or EXISTED WITH YOU) before the world existed.

In fact ALL humans who have ever existed (HAD) Glory WITH GOD before the world existed, simply because GOD so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son John 3:16.

Being loved by GOD, is having (Glory) WITH GOD, and we all know humans DID NOT EXIST before the world existed.

Father, those whom You have given Me, I desire that they also may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory that You gave Me because You loved Me before the foundation of the world. John 17:24.

Notice how GOD loved Jesus: before the foundation of the world. John 17:24, and how Jesus tells us that they may behold My glory that You gave Me because You loved Me before the foundation of the world. John 17:24.

In other words Jesus (HAD) Glory with GOD, by the fact GOD loved Jesus before Jesus existed, because GOD loved Jesus before the foundation of the world. John 17:24.

Being loved by GOD is having (Glory) with GOD, which NEVER means one EXISTED before the world existed.

And I have given them the glory which You have given Me, so that they may be one, as We are one-- John 17:22 

Notice how Jesus prays to GOD saying He has given His disciples the SAME GLORY God gave Him in John 17:5.  

And yet we know the disciples DID NOT EXIST before the world existed.

John 17:5


2. If Jesus is also the creator then WHY did Jesus ONLY ever say:  the One (MEANING his GOD and Father ALONE) having created from the beginning 'made them male and female Matthew 19:4?

The Greek word for ONE is ho ὁ and is the Definite Article for THE GOD meaning the [One] meaning ONE PERSON, meaning THE ONE TRUE GOD ALONE, and NOT THREE PERSONS.

Where are the Biblical facts proving Jesus was ALIVE WITH GOD doing the creating?

In fact there are COUNTESS upon COUNTLESS scriptures all saying and teaching the SAME and IDENTICAL story, that Yahweh The One True GOD ALONE CREATED ALL THINGS in the BEGINNING, and we NEVER, EVER read Jesus or a SEPARATE PERSON of the Holy Spirit was WITH GOD as taught in the TRINITY faith.

But lets be sure and again have a LOOK at the Biblical FACTS.

A good place to start is at the (BEGINNING).

Genesis 1:1 World English Bible
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 

We clearly and plainly see how the (singular) word for (GOD) is used meaning ONE person ALONE who created the heavens and the earth. Genesis 1:1, and we do NOT read (GODS, or WE, US, TOGETHER) created the heavens and the earth, which should be the SIMPLE case if GOD was THREE PERSONS called the TRINITY.

Trinitarian's should not keep denying they believe there are THREE GODS side by side and not ONE, contradicting the word of GOD and the whole Bible.
Even children understand 3 = 3 and not 1.

Deuteronomy 10:14 World English Bible
Behold, to Yahweh your God belongs heaven and the heaven of heavens, the earth, with all that is therein. 

We again read in Deuteronomy 10:14 how ONE PERSON (Yahweh GOD OWNS) the heaven of heavens, the earth, with all that is therein. 

My simple question is WHERE is the other TWO persons of the TRINITY in Deuteronomy 10:14?
If Jesus and the Holy Spirit are ONE and the same GOD as taught in the TRINITY, why are they not mentioned?

Psalm 115:16 World English Bible
The heavens are the heavens of Yahweh; but the earth has he given to the children of men. 

We read again how ONE PERSON GOD Yahweh, OWNS the heavens and has temporally given the earth to the children of men.
Again we do NOT read anything about Jesus and the Holy Spirit  as taught in the TRINITY, so why are they not mentioned?

Acts 17:24 Berean Literal Bible
The God having made the world and all things that are in it, He being Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in hand-made temples, 

Again we read the (SINGULAR) word for (GOD and HE) having made the world and all things that are in it.

We again do NOT read anything about Jesus or a SEPARATE PERSON of the Holy Spirit in the TRINITY making the world and all things that are in it, which is odd if it were true that Jesus was alive WITH GOD at creation, and if  the Holy Spirit was indeed a SEPARATE PERSON.

Isaiah 42:5 World English Bible
Thus says God Yahweh, he who created the heavens and stretched them out, he who spread out the earth and that which comes out of it, he who gives breath to its people and spirit to those who walk in it.

Again we read about a (SINGULAR) person for  God Yahweh, (HE) who created the heavens and stretched them out, he who spread out the earth.

There is again NO mention of ANYONE else being WITH GOD doing or helping GOD in creation.

Malachi 2:10 World English Bible
Don't we all have one father? Hasn't one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, profaning the covenant of our fathers?

This verse could not be any clearer saying we have ONE PERSON who is the father who is the ONE TRUE GOD who created us, which does NOT say ANYTHING about THREE PERSONS who created us as taught in the TRINITY faith or that Jesus was WITH GOD helping in creation.

Matthew 11:25 Berean Literal Bible
At that time, Jesus answering said, "I fully consent to You, Father, Lord of the heaven and the earth, that You did hide these things from the wise and learned, and did reveal them to little children.

In this verse Jesus tells us His Father GOD is the Lord of the heaven and the earth.
WHY isn't Jesus also the Lord of the heaven and the earth if it were true as taught in the TRINITY faith that Jesus is one and the same GOD?
However hold on as we shall soon see how Jesus becomes the BEGINNING and the RULER of heaven and earth as taught in Revelation 3:14 in the correct meaning.

Acts 7:48 Berean Literal Bible
Yet the Most High does not dwell in hand-made houses. As the prophet says.
We read about ONE PERSON ALONE in Acts 7:48 saying the Most High, and nothing about THREE PERSONS.

Acts 14:15 Berean Literal Bible
and saying, "Men, why do you do these things? We also are men of like nature with you, proclaiming the gospel to you, to turn from these vanities to the living God, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all the things in them,

We again read about ONE PERSON the living GOD, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and all the things in them, and NOTHING about Jesus helping GOD, or being WITH GOD.

Romans 1:18-23 Berean Literal Bible
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven upon all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, suppressing the truth by unrighteousness, 19 because the known of God is manifest among them, for God has revealed it to them. 20 For from the creation of the world His invisible qualities, both His eternal power and divinity, are clearly seen, being understood by the things made, for them to be without excuse.
21 For having known God, they glorified Him not as God, or were thankful; but they became futile in their thinking and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and they changed the glory of the immortal God into a likeness of an image of mortal man and birds and quadrupeds and creeping things.

We read again about ONE PERSON: (GOD) has revealed it to them. 20 For from the creation of the world (His) invisible qualities, both His eternal power and divinity, are clearly seen, and NOTHING about THREE PERSONS, or Jesus being WITH GOD creating the world.

The correct meaning of John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:15-18, and Proverbs 8:22.

Let's now move on to the quick facts and see the verses that are used, and CONFUSED most of Christianity like John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:15-18, and Proverbs 8:22 and see what theses verses truly and actually say, teach and mean.

We start at the (BEGINNING) of John's famous Gospel.

 Let's have a look at John 1:1.

John 1:1 The Correct Meaning.
John 1:1
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John 1:1 The Correct Meaning.

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

If Jesus is the (Word), who is WITH GOD, and if Jesus were GOD as MOST believe, we would now have TWO GODS SIDE by SIDE, contradicting the whole Bible.

John 1:1 is simply telling us: In the beginning was the word: meaning GOD's (word), statement, speech, divine utterance, plan, power, authority, divine utterance, expressing  Yahweh’s thoughts, plan, message, purpose and will, spoken by the breath of Yahweh’s mouth, which is why John tells us: and the word was with God, and the word was God, as we are told in Psalm 33:6:
By Yahweh’s word, the heavens were made; all their army by the breath of his mouth. 
World English Bible.

Full article here:


John 1:2 The Correct Meaning.
John 1:2

(He) was in the beginning with God.

The word (HE) is a FALSE modern translation, DECEIVING MOST into believing (HE) is a second person, however the Greek word is instead (Οὗτος) and says (THIS).

John 1:2 is simply telling us: (THIS) was in the beginning with God, meaning (THIS) plan, message, purpose and will, of Yahweh was in the beginning with GOD.

Full article here:
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John 1:3 The Correct Meaning.
John 1:3

All things came into being through (Him), and without (Him) not even one thing came into being that has come into being.

The word (Him) is a FALSE modern translation, DECEIVING MOST into believing (Him) is a second person, however the Greek word is (autos) and also translates as (IT).

John 1:3 is simply telling us: All things came into being through (IT), meaning ALL of Creation came into existence by Yahweh’s (word), statement, speech, divine utterance, plan, and power: and without (IT) Yahweh’s (word), statement, speech, divine utterance, plan, and power: not even one thing came into being that has come into being.

Full article here:

The correct meaning of Colossians 1:15.

Jehovah’s Witnesses believe Paul was teaching in Colossians 1:15 Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, and also use the verses of Proverbs 8:22 saying Jesus was (produced) created by GOD as the firstborn of all creation, 

However this is yet again another terrible CONFUSION and MISUNDERSTANDING.

What did Paul mean: the firstborn of all creation?  

The simple answer is in the verses below:  

And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. Colossians 1:18   

But in fact Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. 1 Corinthians 15-20:  

But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:23  

For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. Romans 8:29   

that the Christ must suffer and that, by being the first to rise from the dead, he would proclaim light both to our people and to the Gentiles.” Acts 26:23.  

and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood. Revelation 1:5.

Full article here: 

Jehovah’s Witnesses also believe Proverbs 8:22 proves Jesus was (produced) CREATED.

However they are using one of MANY FALSE Translations of Proverbs 8:22:
Jehovah Witnesses own translation reads: 
Jehovah (produced) me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago.

There are MANY more FALSE Translations of Proverbs 8:22 which read: 
The LORD brought me forth, or  formed me, or created me, or  created me first, or made me. (Please see the full list of FALSE translations in my full article.

The CORRECT translation is seen in the World English Bible:
"Yahweh (possessed) me in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old. 
The Quick Facts:

Proverbs 8:22 is NOT referring to a second person who was created as many believe is Jesus, but is SUPER poetry by King Solomon and is INSTEAD referring to a personification of  the (wisdom of God), personified as a woman.

Proverbs 8:22: Yahweh (possessed) meaning The One True GOD always acquired, always had, always possesses, always owned all divine WISDOM.

Note in Proverbs 3:19 how Yahweh's own divine WISDOM founded the earth, and NOT by or THROUGH a second person: By wisdom Yahweh founded the earth. By understanding, he established the heavens Proverbs 3:19
Please see my article: 
What Is The (Wisdom) In Proverbs 8? 
Proverbs 8?

We now come to: 
The TRUE Meaning and Misunderstanding of Colossians 1:16, and 1:17.  
Colossians 1:16, and 1:17.


because in Him were created all things in the heavens and upon the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or lordships or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through Him and unto Him.

As we know MOST of Christianity, believe Paul was teaching here the WHOLE of Genesis creation was created BY or through Jesus.

However by what Paul says: all things in the heavens and upon the earth, is referring to what Jesus said in Matthew 28:18: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Paul is clearly referring to all the authority given by GOD to Jesus in heaven and on earth to establish the NEW kingdom and CREATION, which was AFTER Jesus death and resurrection, and is nothing to do with the Geneses creation.

Just as Paul in a few verses back was referring to the NEW kingdom of Christ in Colossians 1:13 saying, who has delivered us from the dominion of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of His beloved Son.

Just as we read in Ephesians 1:20-21
which He exerted in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly realms, above every principality and authority and power and dominion, and every name being named, not only in this age, but also in the one coming.

Notice also in 1 Peter 3:22 how we read AFTER Jesus resurrection:
And this water symbolizes the baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body, but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 

22: who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, angels and authorities and powers having been subjected to Him.

So we read AFTER Jesus death, resurrection, and victory, Jesus was given: All authority in heaven and on earth Matthew 28:18.
Above every principality and authority and power and dominion Ephesians 1:21.

Berean Literal Bible.
who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, angels and authorities and powers having been subjected to Him. 1 Peter 3:22.

We clearly see what Paul tells us in Colossians 1:16 about the thrones or lordships or rulers or authorities, which is IDENTICAL with what we are told about Jesus AFTER His Death and resurrection, in Matthew 28:18, Ephesians 1:21 and 1 Peter 3:22 saying: All authority in heaven and on earth, above every principality and authority and power and dominion, where He went into heaven, where angels and authorities and powers having been subjected to Him.

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This now completes our study to seeing what Scriptures most Christians and most Trinitarians use like John 1:1-3, (Colossians 1:15-18), Proverbs 8:22, to WRONGLY prove Jesus is the primary source of all the GENESIS creation, or that  ALL things where made (By) Him (Jesus) meaning all the original GENESIS creation.

We have clearly seen how the scriptures like John 1:1-3, (Colossians 1:15-18), Proverbs 8:22, are misunderstood, and do NOT actually teach Jesus is the primary source of all the GENESIS creation,

But what is Jesus the (Beginning) of?

Now we have seen that Jesus was NOT yet ALIVE and EXISTING in the (Beginning) of the GENESIS creation, then WHY did Jesus say in Revelation 3:14 He is the Beginning of God's creation.

The simple answer was already given above in Matthew 28:18, by Jesus Himself saying: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Just as Paul tells us in Colossians 1:16.

Paul says: all things in the heavens and upon the earth, is referring to what Jesus said in Matthew 28:18: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Paul is clearly referring to all the authority given by GOD to Jesus in heaven and on earth to establish the NEW CREATION.

Revelation 3:14.
And to the messenger of the church in Laodicea write: These things says the Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of God's creation.

Jesus is CONFIRMING in Revelation 3:14 that He is the (Beginning) of God's NEW creation.

Just as Paul in a few verses back was referring to the NEW kingdom of Christ in Colossians 1:13 saying, who has delivered us from the dominion of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of His beloved Son.

Just as we read in Ephesians 1:20-21
which He exerted in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly realms, above every principality and authority and power and dominion, and every name being named, not only in this age, but also in the one coming.

Paul goes on to tell us in  Colossians 1:17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

Paul is NOT referring to Jesus being ALIVE BEFORE GODS CREATION, but instead that Jesus is FIRST in IMPORTANCE, ORDER and RANK, as we are also told by John the Baptist in John 1:15 and  John 1:30
This is He concerning whom I said, 'After me comes a man who has precedence over me, because He was before me.'

This is the meaning of what Jesus said in John 8:58, yet again another Scripture completely misunderstood by most of Christianity.
Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."
Jesus was simply saying to the Jews, before Abraham was, I am.” (ἐγὼ εἰμί), I am the one, the chosen one, the Messiah, the Christ, I am He, who was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you 1 Peter 1:20.

Now we understand WHY Paul said in Colossians 1:17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
All things hold together because of Matthew 28:18: All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Jesus is the (BEGINNING of GODS NEW CREATION Revelation 3:14.

My Conclusion:

Jesus is very important, and the most important person to exist after GOD, because He is GOD's chosen Messiah and RULER where GOD is now CREATING a NEW BEGINNING in and through Jesus Christ.

This is the meaning of what Paul tells us in Colossians 1:16
because in Him were created all things in the heavens and upon the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or lordships or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through Him and unto Him.

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and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To the One loving us and releasing us from our sins through His blood,

BEFORE creation, GOD had already known and chosen Jesus to be the RULER of His creation, which was before Jesus existed and this is why Paul tells us in Colossians 1:16
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him.

Jesus is the BEGINNING, because Jesus is  FIRST in IMPORTANCE, ORDER and RANK, who was in GOD's mind, purpose and plan before the creation of GODS world.

Jesus is the BEGINNING, because GOD is now establishing His NEW BEGINNING and NEW creation through His Son Jesus Christ.

GOD and Jesus work together as ONE, as a Father and Son,  who are the FIRST and the LAST.

One GOD.

With all fairness, I could go on and on providing scriptures revealing how the Bible ONLY every teaches about a SINGULAR PERSON WHO IS YAHWEH, THE ONE TRUE GOD alone who created ALL things ALONE BY HIMSELF.

Isaiah 44:24
I have done my best to present the Biblical facts proving NOWHERE in the whole Bible is the Trinitarian concept taught as a "tritheism" (three Gods) but Yahweh The One True GOD always and ONLY ever says (He, I), was BY MYSELF, ALONE, and NEVER, EVER does GOD EVER mention there was ANYONE WITH (HIM) doing the creating in Genesis.

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  1. You are way off on this.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/12nJ2p11ejFQGwDUyxlNcZyMNmQVaaHXm/view?usp=drivesdk

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  2. Jesus is Wisdom at Proverbs 28
    http://newworldtranslation.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-lord-possessed-meor-lord-created-me.html?m=1


    http://newworldtranslation.blogspot.com/2018/08/colossians-1-and-first-born-of-creation.html?m=1

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    1. The MANY FALSE Translations of Proverbs 8:22:
      Jehovah Witnesses own translation reads:
      Jehovah (produced) me as the beginning of his way, The earliest of his achievements of long ago.

      There are MANY more FALSE Translations of Proverbs 8:22 which read:
      The LORD brought me forth, or formed me, or created me, or created me first, or made me. (Please see the full list of FALSE translations in my full article.

      The CORRECT translation is seen in the World English Bible:
      "Yahweh (possessed) me in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old.
      Proverbs 8:22.

      Proverbs 8:22.


      The Quick Facts:

      Proverbs 8:22 is NOT referring to a second person who was created as many believe is Jesus, but is SUPER poetry by King Solomon and is INSTEAD referring to a personification of the (wisdom of God), personified as a woman.

      Proverbs 8:22: Yahweh (possessed) meaning The One True GOD always acquired, always had, always possesses, always owned all divine WISDOM.

      Note in Proverbs 3:19 how Yahweh's own divine WISDOM founded the earth, and NOT by or THROUGH a second person: By wisdom Yahweh founded the earth. By understanding, he established the heavens Proverbs 3:19

      Note in Isaiah 44:24 how GOD tells us He ALONE, BY HIMSELF created all things:

      Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and he who formed you from the womb: “ I am Yahweh, who makes all things; who ALONE stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth BY MYSELF. Isaiah 44:24

      Full article here:
      What Is The (Wisdom) In Proverbs 8? https://wwwrealdiscoveriesorg-simon.blogspot.com/2020/07/is-wisdom-in-proverbs-8-jesus.html

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