Romans 9:5. Yet AGAIN Another Trinitarian DECEPTION.

 

Quick Facts:

The modern translations are very different and deceptive by making St Paul sound like he is saying Jesus is: the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

Instead of the Greek text that says: the Christ the according to flesh the being over all God blessed to the ages Amen. Codex Vaticanus.

Contemporary English Version

They have those famous ancestors, who were also the ancestors of the Christ. I pray that God, who rules over all, will be praised forever! Amen. 

Jesus is above all, but not above His Father, as He declared Himself, contrary to what the modern translations are implying by saying: the Christ who is God over all, proving St Paul must have been referring to GOD the Father, unless St Paul was referring to Jesus as being blessed by His Father GOD for ever.

In other words Jesus is blessed by GOD. 

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Full Article:

There are golden rules regarding the teachings in the Bible that one must always remember, abide by, and never depart from. 

First Golden Rule.  

Never ever break the FIRST and most important commandment that Jesus gave us in Mark 12:29 when He referred to His Father’s most important commandment in Deuteronomy 6:4: when Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Mark 12:29.  

Notice how Jesus said His GOD is (ONE) and nothing about being THREE called the TRINITY, or any indication by Jesus that GOD is a compound unity proving that is another one of the countless Trinitarian deception’s.   

This Greek word here for (ONE), and is (εἷς), and clearly refers to the GOD of Israel which is grammatically singular and never ever means THREE. 

Even the Trinitarians translate this Greek word here for (ONE, εἷς), as meaning: alone, individual, individually  lone, one, one thing, person, single , someone. 

Definition one. 

Second Golden Rule.  

Always remember GOD and His Son never ever taught they were THREE called the Trinity or the SAME GOD. 

Notice Jesus said in John 17:3: And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 

Did you see that: Jesus  prayed to His Father and said: you, the (only) true God?  

The Greek word for (only) is: μόνον.  

Definition: alone NASB Translation: alone (31), even (1), just (2), mere (1), merely (2), only (18), only one (1), only thing (1), private (1), themselves* (1).  

As we see, even the Trinitarians of http://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/11-31.htm who believe Jesus is THREE called the TRINITY translate the Greek word for (only) is: μόνον, which clearly shows us GOD is ONE BEING ALONE.  

How odd, the Trinitarians translate John 17:3 perfectly with the Greek word for (only): μόνον, clearly demonstrating with their own hands that GOD is GOD ALONE and yet prove they still can’t understand or because of their PRIDE they still refuse to believe Jesus taught His Father is ONE SINGLE SEPARATE being, instead of THREE called the TRINITY.  

We see how Jesus prayed to His Father making this very important fact very simple and clear  that even children can understand what Jesus taught and said that His Father is truly and literally the one and (only) true God, who are Father and Son.  

Notice what Jesus did not say?   

Jesus did not say: And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only (THREE) true God, or GODS. 

GOD and His Son never ever said or taught they are the SAME ONE TRUE GOD.   

The Biblical rules should always be followed when following GOD and His Son.  

I. Always remember what Jesus taught and never depart from what Jesus taught.

  

2. Jesus cannot lie, and only ever taught what GOD taught Him, which He taught us.  

3. Jesus never ever taught He was GOD, but only ever taught His Father is the only ONE TRUE GOD, in John 17:3 and Mark 12:29.  

4. Jesus only ever taught what we need to know so that we may follow Him, abide in Him and keep His teachings and receive the prize of GOD within Christ Jesus, and be raised to eternal life.  

5. As Jesus did not teach He was GOD that clearly demonstrates He was NOT GOD, otherwise He would have told us so and made this important fact very very clear, that all must believe if which He did not ever say or teach.  

6. By following and keeping Jesus teachings we prove to Him we are His true disciples which proves we truly desire to love Him and please Him which also means we love the Father for they are as one in agreement and nature.  

7. When we believe what Jesus taught we prove we are following the true Christ and the correct Gospel that Jesus truly is the literal Begotten Son of His one true GOD which is what He only ever taught, and always taught that He is the literal Son of His literal ONE TRUE GOD.  

8. Believing GOD and His Son are the same one GOD and equal who both always existed together as MOST believe, is a false gospel, teaching a false GOD and Christ which does not teach the truth, that GOD and Jesus are truly the literal Father and Son.  

9. Another Biblical rule is that GOD and Jesus never ever contradict their own teachings.  

10 if it seems like there are Bible contradictions, then that should immediately raise a red flag, and proves there is a misunderstanding, or the verse has been taken out of context or the verse is a wrong or false translation or simple a forgery.  

With all that in mind once we understand GOD, Jesus and their prophets and disciples do not contradict what they teach, we will not do what the Trinitarians often do and take the scriptures out of context and at face value and create countless Bible contradictions and prove to be sloppy scholars, but be a Berean Jew and be eager to examine the Scriptures and understand what St Paul was truly teaching.  

To understand the simple truth, this can easily be done by simply going to other places where St Paul used the same and similar phrase as he used in Romans 9:5 which is what we shall do shortly.  

Instead we should examine other similar teachings by Paul which will help us drew our conclusion and determine what he means and discover the truth.  

By examining other similar teachings by Paul this can also work the other way, and prove if we are wrong and if Paul did contradict his own teachings including what GOD and His Son always taught that GOD is GOD alone.

The fact is if St Paul believed Jesus was GOD, there would be many teachings by Paul elsewhere in his many writings saying he believed Jesus is GOD.  

And yet what we find is that there are NO teachings anywhere in Paul’s many writings teaching Jesus is GOD.  

But instead we find quite the OPPOSITE and an amazing clear confession by St Paul referring to exactly what he believed in 1 Corinthians 8:6, which is also seen in many other places of St Paul’s teachings.  

Yet for us there is one God the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.  

Notice St Paul tells us: there is one God, and then continues to tell us who that one GOD is, by then saying, (the Father). 

Notice a simple Biblical tact.

There is NOTHING about Jesus being GOD, or the Holy Spirit being a SEPARATE person or GOD being THREE persons as taught in the TRINITY.  

And yet again we come to that same word: (one) God.  

Lets again have a look at the Greek word for (ONE) and again see if there is any indication this word does not mean (ONE) but THREE. 

The Greek word for (ONE) is εἷς. 

Notice the exact Greek word for (ONE εἷς) in  1 Corinthians 8:6 is the SAME and exact Greek word for (ONE εἷς) used for GOD in Mark 12:29: Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is (ONE). 

The Greek word in Mark 12:29 is εἷς.

And in BOTH verses of Mark 12:29 and 1 Corinthians 8:6 we find an interesting fact by the Trinitarians themselves:

This Greek word here for (ONE, εἷς), as meaning: alone, individual, individually*  lone, one, one thing, person, single , someone. 

Definition one. 

And NOTHING by the Trinitarians who believe GOD is THREE in their Definition of (ONE).   

Now we understand what St Paul taught, and believed, saying: Yet for us there is one God, the Father, and NOTHING what so ever saying Jesus is also GOD, we must then always hold to the Golden and Biblical Rules, GOD is “ONE being” and ONE person and therefor never depart from that Biblical fact and end up as Trinitarians do by CONTRADICTING the whole Bible and the word of the ALMIGHTY GOD and His Son.  

So what then did St Paul mean in Romans 9:5?

is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.  

Notice first, what we read in the: New International Version 

Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.  

Notice already in New International Version and many like this translation? the Christ, who is God over all?

In translations like this and others that are similar this cannot be the correct translation referred to Jesus as: the Christ, who is God over all.

Because we are then going against the Golden and Biblical rules, and creating another serious CONTRADICTION, because if Jesus is: the Christ, who is God over all, we then exclude the ALMIGHTY GOD and Father, who is certainly called: ONE GOD and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. Ephesians 4:6. 

Notice here in Ephesians 4:6, St Paul is telling us the: one God and Father of all, who is over all?  

In this single scripture we have a simple Biblical fact against Jesus being GOD, because St Paul says there is one God and Father who is over all.  

Notice how Trinitarians again create CONTRACTIONS by saying St Paul is teaching Jesus is GOD: the Christ, who is God over all?  

When the Bible clearly teaches us there is only one person who is the God of Israel, 2 Kings 19:15, who is over all, who is the blessed and only Sovereign King, 1 Timothy 6:14,15, who alone is THE GOD, 2 Kings 19:15. 

to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 1 Timothy 6:14,15.  

 “O LORD, the God of Israel, enthroned above the cherubim, you are THE God, you alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth; you have made heaven and earth. 2 Kings 19:15. 

Notice the translation in New International Version puts Jesus the Son above His Father GOD and says: the Christ, who is God over all?  Contrary to what Jesus clearly taught us that His Father was greater them Himself.  

There are countless scriptures like Psalm 18:31 below, that do not teach us: Christ, who is God over all, but instead teach us GOD almighty the Father is God over all: For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God? “There is none holy like the LORD: for there is none besides you; there is no rock like our God. 1 Samuel 2:2.  

and said, “O LORD, God of Israel, there is no God like you, in heaven above or on earth beneath, keeping covenant and showing steadfast love to your servants who walk before you with all their heart; 1 Kings 8:23   

As we see, just three of many scriptures teaching us God of Israel, God over all.  

This is the first clue that St Paul was not referring to: the Christ, who is God over all.  

Lets dig deeper and look in two of the oldest Bibles of the codex sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus and get to as close as possible to what St Paul was saying in Romans 9:5?   

Here are my own translations?  

Who the patriarchs and of who the Christ the according to flesh the being over all God blessed to the ages Amen.  

Now compare Romans 9:5 with modern translations?   

Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen. NIV. 

Notice how different the Greek text is? the Christ the according to flesh the being over all God blessed to the ages Amen. Codex Vaticanus  

New Living Translation and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. 

Notice how different the Greek text is? the Christ the according to flesh the being over all God blessed to the ages Amen. Codex Vaticanus  

To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all blessed forever. Amen. 

English Standard Version 

Notice how different the Greek text is? the Christ the according to flesh the being over all God blessed to the ages Amen. Codex Vaticanus  

Now, as we know Jesus is not GOD, we can rule that out.  And looking at my translations to me this verse looks like St Paul could be saying Jesus is blessed by GOD forever.  

The problem with the early Greek text is that there were no punctuation.  

The are NO marks such as full stop, comma, and brackets, used in writing to separate sentences. But if we add in a full stop like below, we come up with a simple explanation. 

Who the patriarchs and of who the Christ the according to flesh the being over all. God blessed to the ages Amen. 

And that makes perfect sense, because Jesus was the only person to ever lived a perfect life in complete obedience to His GOD and was the only human who never sinned who was the only person to overcame all temptation which is why GOD gave Jesus all authority for being 100% loyal, and therefore makes sense to why St Paul may be referring to Jesus being GOD blessed for ever, who GOD gave these blesses to Israel through. 

And this is in line with what we read in Acts 3:13:  The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified his servant Jesus, whom you delivered over and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he had decided to release him.   

But remember not to take the verse at a glance and without looking in other similar praises by St Paul.  

As I am not a Bible scholar, even thought my understanding makes sense, I could very well be wrong, so lets now look at other scriptures of St Paul’s that have a similar phrase.  

Notice in the many other teachings by St Paul below we find how Paul is referring to GOD the Father and is the identical phrase with Romans 9:5:   

because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. Romans 1:25.

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Corinthians 1:3.  

What do we see? 

We see an identical teaching and phrase as Paul taught in Romans 9:5: who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.  

Also look at what St Paul has to say in his statement regarding GOD the Father and the Son in 2 Corinthians 11:31? 

The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying.   

We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, Colossians 1:3   

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Ephesians 1:3

 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 15:6 

It is also worth noting that none Trinitarian scholars believe St Paul was referring to the phrase of who is God over all, is referred to GOD the Father  “God over all” and “God blessed forever”  and not Jesus.  

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1 Peter 1:3  

Notice below in Revelation 1:6 even St John always refers to GOD as being GOD alone as Jesus is the priests to his God and Father? 

and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.   

Conclusion.

I believe it could be either one or the other below. 

1.  St Paul could be saying: Who the patriarchs and of who the Christ the according to flesh the being over all. God blessed to the ages Amen. 

Meaning Jesus is above all as GOD gave Him all authority, making Jesus above all under His Father who is God blessed, meaning blessed by GOD for ever for overcoming.

Which agrees with Acts 3:13.  

2.  Or the end phrase applies to GOD ALMIGHTY the Father: God blessed to the ages Amen. Which agrees with many other teachings of St Paul in:  Romans 1:25. 2 Corinthians 1:3. 2 Corinthians 11:31. Ephesians 1:3. Romans 15:6. Where we see virtually identical teachings and phrases as Paul taught in Romans 9:5: who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.    

2 Corinthians 11:31: The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying.  

Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,  

Romans 15:6: that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.   

This agrees with the translation by: Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)  the Patriarchs are theirs; and from them, as far as his physical descent is concerned, came the Messiah, who is over all. Praised be Adonai for ever! Amen. 

Romans 9:5.  

And: Romans 9:5 Revised Standard Version (RSV)  to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen. 

Notice the full stop?  

Conclusion:

Remember the Biblical rules:  

GOD never taught he was more then one person.  

GOD never taught He was the Son.  

The Prophecies were always about GOD sending His Messiah.  

The Prophecies were never about GOD sending Himself.   

GOD always declared He is GOD ALONE and ONE person, and never THREE.  

Jesus never taught He was GOD.  

Jesus never taught GOD or Himself were THREE persons.  

Jesus never taught He was the Father.  

Jesus only ever taught His Father GOD is the only ONE TRUE GOD.  

Jesus always taught they were to separate persons, who are the literal Father and Son.  

GOD and Jesus do not contradict their own teachings.  

St Paul never ever taught Jesus was GOD anywhere in his teachings.  

St Paul confessed clearly and perfectly regarding what he believed by saying:  THERE IS BUT ONE GOD WHO IS THE FATHER, and nothing about Jesus being GOD or that GOD and Jesus are THREE called the TRINITY.  

St Paul never contradicted his own teachings by saying GOD is the only one GOD and Jesus is also GOD.  

We have also seen the modern translations are very different and deceptive by making St Paul sound like he is saying Jesus is: the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

Instead of the Greek text that says: the Christ the according to flesh the being over all God blessed to the ages Amen. Codex Vaticanus.

Jesus is above all, but not above His Father, as He declared Himself, contrary to what the modern translations are implying by saying: the Christ, who is God over all, proving St Paul must have been referring to GOD the Father unless St Paul was referring to Jesus being GOD blessed for ever.

In other words Jesus is blessed by GOD. 

The Bible teaches GOD the Father is the only one almighty God of Israel, who is over all, who is the blessed and only Sovereign King, and GOD alone, which proves St Paul could not have been referring to Jesus being above His own Father and being called: the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.  

Romans 9:5, is a perfect example of how Trinitarians go out of their way to create COUNTLESS Bible CONTRADICTIONS, with no concern or regards to the massive confusions Trinitarians are causing, in order to make their false teachings fit with their own faith.