Simon Brown.

Proverbs 8:34-36 Blessed is the man who hears me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at my door posts. For whoever finds me finds life, and will obtain favor from Yahweh. But he who sins against me wrongs his own soul. All those who hate me love death.” Psalm 84: 11 For Yahweh God is a sun and a shield. Yahweh will give grace and glory. He withholds no good thing from those who walk blamelessly. 12 Yahweh of Armies, blessed is the man who trusts in you. 1 John 5:5 Now who is the one overcoming the world, except the one believing that Jesus is the Son of God?

Friday 30 October 2020

Was there a doctrine of the Trinity in the time of Jesus and His disciples?

doctrine of the Trinity


1. Was there a doctrine of the Trinity in the time of Jesus and His disciples?

Answer.

The simplest outline of the doctrine was formulated in the 4th century, largely in terms of rejection of what was considered not to be consonant with general Christian belief. Further elaboration continued in the succeeding centuries.[10]

Scripture contains neither the word Trinity,[11] nor an expressly formulated doctrine of the Trinity. Rather, according to the Christian theology, it "bears witness to" the activity of a God who can only be understood in Trinitarian terms.[12] The doctrine did not take its definitive shape until late in the fourth century.[13] During the intervening period, various tentative solutions, some more and some less satisfactory, were proposed.

10. "Trinity, doctrine of" in The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church (Oxford University Press 2005 ISBN 978-0-19-280290-3)

11. Matt Slick, "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible"

12. McGrath Alister E. Christian Theology: An Introduction Blackwell, Oxford (2001) p.321

13. McGrath, Alister E. Christian Theology: An Introduction Blackwell, Oxford (2001) p.324

The above info answers saying there was NO OFFICIAL Trinity doctrine in the time of Jesus and His disciples, because as we have clearly read. The Trinity doctrine did not take its definitive shape until 300 years later in the 4th century.                                 

     Question for Trinitarians?

As there was NO TRINITY doctrine for over 300 years after Christ, and the Disciples and millions of Christians did not have the TRINITY doctrine as their MAIN faith, but instead believed GOD was ONE GOD AND ONE PERSON ALONE and that Jesus was the SON of GOD.

Would this mean the Disciples and millions of Christians, including Jesus who only ever taught His Father was ONE PERSON in Mark 12:29, and that He was GODS SON John 10:36, are they all going to HELL?                                                      

WHY DO MOST OF CHRISTIANITY BELIEVE IN WHAT WAS NEVER TAUGHT IN THE TIME OF JESUS AND HIS DISCIPLES? 

No one needs to be a scientist to read the history of the TRINITY, and see how the TRINITY became a NEW RELIGION in the fourth century.

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Monday 12 October 2020

DID ATHANASIUS ADOPT THE CONCEPT OF THE CHRISTIAN TRINITY FROM THE PAGAN EGYPTIAN TRINITY GODS?

TRINITY GODS?

DID ATHANASIUS ADOPT THE CONCEPT OF THE CHRISTIAN TRINITY FROM THE PAGAN EGYPTIAN TRINITY GODS?

FIND OUT THE SHOCKING TRUTH OF HOW MOST OF CHRISTIANITY HAVE MADE THE PAGAN TRINITY THE FOUNDATIONS OF THEIR OWN FAITH.

DISCOVER WHAT I DISCOVERED, WHICH NEARLY GAVE ME A HEART ATTACK. 

Was Sir Isaac Newton Telling The TRUTH, When He Said: The Trinity Was Bogus?

DID YOU KNOW?

Athanasius of Alexandria (c. 296–298 – 2 May 373), also called Athanasius the Great, Athanasius the Confessor or, primarily in the Coptic Orthodox Church, Athanasius the Apostolic, was the 20th bishop of Alexandria was a Christian theologian, a Church Father, the chief defender of Trinitarianism against Arianism, and a noted Egyptian leader of the fourth century. Reff wikki.

Sir Isaac Newton believed and said: he was convinced the doctrine of the Trinity was bogus, a successful deception by St. Athanasius in the fourth century.

Sir Isaac Newton on the TRINITY.

How can we learn if Sir Isaac Newton was correct? 

Should we believe people like him and the claims they make, even though he was a highly influential physicist, astronomer, mathematician, philosopher, alchemist and theologian, including one of the best scientist, Bible scholars and Greek expert in his time.

Dr. Thomas G. Barnes said in his book "Newton was perhaps the greatest biblical scholar of his age." Book, "Science and Biblical Faith," 1993.

This is why it is so vital and not to late, for our own souls to do our research and open our hearts and minds, constantly praying, humbly going to the ONE TRUE GOD through His ONE TRUE SON Jesus to help us learn the truth and ask Him to help us be a Berean Jew, who examined the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

So it is 'vital to search the scriptures' to see what is true or false.

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Philippians 2:12.

Our destination of our souls depends on making the right moves, to be sure we seek out the truth of GOD and His SON Jesus, otherwise we will be one of the millions of foolish virgins who WILL HEAR Jesus say: I DO NOT KNOW YOU.

Paul also made this perfectly clear when he said: But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good. 1 Thessalonians 5:21.

Backed up by Jesus when He said: seek and you will find. Mathew 7:7.

Was Sir Isaac Newton telling the truth?

The question is, how can we be sure people like Sir Isaac Newton were telling the truth and are correct, and people like him are not deceiving us?

Again always remember Jesus words when He said, SEEK AND YOU WILL FIND. Mathew 7:7.

What I discovered about Sir Isaac Newton?

I decided to see if there was a person known as Athanasius, because this was the person Sir Isaac Newton claimed who was successful in the deception of the Trinity in the fourth century.

Athanasius,

Icon of St Athanasius

Public Domain_ https___commons.wikimedia.org_w_index.php_curid_611837.

Icon of St Athanasius

Pope of Alexandria; Confessor and Doctor of the Church

Born c. 296-298[1]

Alexandria, Egypt

Died 2 May 373 (aged 75-79)

Alexandria, Egypt

Venerated in Roman Catholicism, Oriental Orthodoxy, Eastern Orthodoxy, Lutheranism, Anglican Communion, and among the Continuing Anglican Movement

Major shrine Saint Mark Coptic Orthodox Cathedral in Cairo, Egypt

Feast 15 May = 7 Pashons, 89 A.M. (Coptic Orthodox)

2 May (Western Christianity)

18 January (Eastern Orthodox Church)

Attributes Bishop arguing with a pagan; bishop holding an open book; bishop standing over a defeated heretic

In just a simple 10-second search on the Internet, caused my heart to miss a beat when I watched the page open up to  Athanasius of Alexandria. 

As I read on, not only did Athanasius exist, but also the info about Athanasius proved Sir Isaac Newton was absolutely correct.

My simple search on the Internet took me directly to a person called: Athanasius of Alexandria. He lived in the precise time during the First Council of Nicaea of the Roman emperor Constantine the Great, where the Trinity was finely made into a doctrine, well over 300 years after Jesus and His disciples left the planet earth.

The Wikipedia site tells us:

Saint Athanasius of Alexandria (/ˌæθəˈneɪʃəs/; Greek: Ἀθανάσιος Ἀλεξανδρείας, Athanásios Alexandrías; c. 296-298 - 2 May 373), also called Athanasius the Great, Athanasius the Confessor or, primarily in the Coptic Orthodox Church, Athanasius the Apostolic, was the twentieth bishop of Alexandria (as Athanasius I). His episcopate lasted 45 years (c. 8 June 328 - 2 May 373), of which over 17 were spent in five exiles ordered by four different Roman emperors. 

As I carried on reading the next part below, I felt like screaming out to my wife for a Defibrillation, to give me a controlled electric shock in order to start my heart beating again.

I then discovered Sir Isaac Newton was most certainly telling the truth.

FULL ARTICLE HERE: DISCOVER WHAT I DISCOVERED, WHICH NEARLY GAVE ME A HEART ATTACK.

Was Sir Isaac Newton Telling The TRUTH, When He Said:

The Trinity Was Bogus?

By Simon Brown.

Also read: DID THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CREATE THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY? Research By Simon Brown.

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