IS THE TRINITARIAN CLAIM TRUE OR FALSE? DID Isaiah see Jesus as (GOD/Yahweh)?
Translations by English Standard Version, unless otherwise stated.
In Isaiah 6:1 we read Isaiah had a Vision of the Lord.
In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the traina of his robe filled the temple.
And if we move on to verse 3 we read: And one called to another and said: “Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory!”
But whom is Isaiah referring to because God is called Lord and Jesus is called Lord.
Well as the Trinitarian’s claim here, Isaiah saw Jesus as (GOD/Yahweh), is this ONE being, or TWO beings?
Read on and see Trinitarian’s do not know themselves.
What is certain is that the answer to whom Isaiah was referring, is in the end of Revelation 4:8.
And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all around and within, and day and night they never cease to say, “Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come!”
Notice we read: Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty.
So we can be sure that Isaiah was referring to seeing the Lord God Almighty.
Now we are confident Isaiah was referring to seeing the Lord God Almighty in Isaiah 6:1.
Let us now see what Isaiah believed?
Did Isaiah believe Yahweh/GOD is GOD alone?
Or did Isaiah believe Yahweh/GOD is THREE, now called the TRINITY?
Or did Isaiah believe Yahweh/GOD is also the suffering servant and the Messiah?
So now, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you alone are the LORD.” Isaiah 37:20. Notice, there is nothing there about GOD being more then ONE PERSON or BEING, as taught by the TRINITY faith that GOD is THREE, but we instead read Isaiah saying: you alone are the LORD.”
The Englishman’s Concordance tells us the meaning of the word for (alone)?
Short Definition: alone Original Word: בַּד Alone, himself ,itself, myself, only, part of each, separate, themselves.
Are we in agreement that ONE mean’s ONE and not TWO or THREE?
Great we are so far on the same fence.
Let us continue with some more verses by Isaiah and see if we can find ONE verse by Him saying He believed Yahweh/GOD is not ONE BEING or ONE PERSON, but THREE persons?
Isaiah 2:11.
The haughty looks of man shall be brought low, and the lofty pride of men shall be humbled, and the LORD alone will be exalted in that day
Isaiah 25:9.
It will be said on that day, “Behold, this is our God; we have waited for him, that he might save us. This is the LORD; we have waited for him; let us be glad and rejoice in his salvation.”
Notice in the next verse of Isaiah 30:18 below, how Isaiah DEFINES the God of Israel with a (singular verb) by saying: For the LORD is (a God)?
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Therefore the LORD waits to be gracious to you, and therefore he exalts himself to show mercy to you. For the LORD is a God of justice; blessed are all those who wait for him. Isaiah 30:18
Isaiah 43:10. “You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.
Isaiah 43:15. I am the LORD, your Holy One, the Creator of Israel, your King.”
Notice in the next verse of Isaiah 43:15 above, how the God of Israel again DEFINES Himself through Isaiah with a (singular verb) by saying: your Holy (One), the Creator of Israel.
Isaiah 44:6. American Standard Version Thus saith Jehovah, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts: I am the first, and I am the last; and besides me there is no God.
Isaiah 44:8. Fear not, nor be afraid; have I not told you from of old and declared it? And you are my witnesses! Is there a God besides me? There is no Rock; I know not any.”
Isaiah 45:5. I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God; I equip you, though you do not know me.
Isaiah 45:14 Thus says the LORD: “The wealth of Egypt and the merchandise of Cush, and the Sabeans, men of stature, shall come over to you and be yours; they shall follow you; they shall come over in chains and bow down to you. They will plead with you, saying: ‘Surely God is in you, and there is no other, no god besides him.’”
Isaiah 45:18 For thus says the LORD, who created the heavens (he is God!), who formed the earth and made it (he established it; he did not create it empty, he formed it to be inhabited!): “I am the LORD, and there is no other.
Isaiah 45:21 Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me.
Isaiah 46:9. remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me,
As we have clearly seen by the very words inspired by GOD Himself, through His prophet Isaiah, there are absolutely no indications, or teachings, or references or hidden revelations of Isaiah believing the GOD of Israel is a Trinitarian concept or a "tritheism" (three Gods). Instead Isaiah always demonstrated and declared and clearly believed the GOD of Israel is ONE single BEING, and always taught: Trust in the LORD forever, for the LORD GOD is an everlasting rock. Isaiah 26:4.
I didn’t read anything in Isaiah 26:4, saying and teaching to trust in the Trinitarian concept of the "tritheism" (three Gods).
But that we are to: Trust in the LORD forever, for the LORD GOD.
Notice SINGULAR being (the LORD GOD)?
So far we clearly see how all of Isaiah teachings are in complete agreement with Judaism, a monotheistic religion.
Messiah.
But what about the coming Messiah, did Isaiah believe the Messiah was the ONE TRUE GOD Himself, that would sacrifice Himself instead of His own begotten Son?
Or perhaps Trinitarian’s are correct and they understand what others don't understand, that Yahweh/GOD was disguised as the Messiah, even though Jesus told us so many times He is GOD's Son.
Because this is what Trinitarians are teaching, as we see below Jesus is GOD.
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Did Isaiah believe the Messiah was the ONE TRUE GOD Himself?
Well, we can be confident that Isaiah always trusted, believed and taught what GOD told Him.
And there are no teachings by Isaiah teaching he believed GOD was the Messiah Himself and that GOD Himself would come concealed in a different hidden identity.
But instead Isaiah revealed what GOD revealed through Him which was the greatest prophecies of Jesus Christ ever told.
Isaiah’s book is full of predictions foretold and predicted by GOD including: The Servant songs (also called the Servant poems or the Songs of the Suffering Servant) are songs in the Book of Isaiah in the Hebrew Bible.
Lets have a look at the famous Isaiah 53 prophesy.
English Standard Version
1 Who has believed what he has heard from us? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? 2 For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He was despised and rejectedb by men, a man of sorrowsc and acquainted withd grief;e and as one from whom men hide their facesf he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned—every one—to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth. 8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living, stricken for the transgression of my people? 9 And they made his grave with the wicked and with a rich man in his death, although he had done no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it was the will of the LORD to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makesh an offering for guilt, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11 Out of the anguish of his soul he shall seei and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many,j and he shall divide the spoil with the strong,k because he poured out his soul to death and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and makes intercession for the transgressors.
It is encouraging to know how Isaiah prophesies are perfectly inline with what Jesus taught in many teachings like John 6:38. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.
John 6:38 is just one of countless scriptures teaching us that Jesus Himself never, ever taught He was or is the true GOD of Israel, but that He was and is a SEPARATE being who is GOD’s begotten Son, SENT and sacrificed by His GOD, to do the will of His GOD and fulfil the many prophesies of Isaiah, so that GOD's Son would be the Lamb for his GOD.
It is well known: The Book of Isaiah is quoted many times by New Testament writers.
Ten of those references are about the Suffering Servant, how he will suffer and die to save many from their sins, be buried in a rich man's tomb, and be a light to the Gentiles. The Gospel of John says that Isaiah "saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him. Graham, Ron. “ Isaiah in the New Testament - Quotations Chart - In Isaiah Order”
Here in Isaiah 53, In The Old Testament, Is Probably one of the clearest and best predictions ever foretold and predicted., that was plainly and fully prophesied of Jesus Christ.
The prophet Isaiah foretold and predicted the coming of Jesus roughly 700 years before Jesus was born, who would become the Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world.
GOD, notice I said GOD, gives His prophet Isaiah, a complete and most accurate shockingly reliable description of what was foretold and fulfilled of GOD’s own Son Jesus Christ in every possible way.
Isaiah 53:10. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
PROPHECY FULFILLED 700 YEARS LATER. NEW TESTAMENT
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. John 6:38
What have we learnt so far?
1. We are confidant Isaiah was referring to seeing the Lord God Almighty, ONLY.
2. Isaiah clearly believed GOD is a single being and never taught that the GOD of Israel was a Trinitarian concept or a “ ritheism" (three Gods).
3. Isaiah clearly taught by amazing inspirations from GOD the countless prophesies of GOD’s Son, who would send His Suffering Servant, and how Jesus would suffer and die to save many from their sins, be buried in a rich man’s tomb, and be the ultimate perfect sacrificial lamb and our high priest and mediator.
But why do Trinitarians believe St John was referring to Isaiah seeing Jesus as Yahweh/GOD in Isaiah 6:1, where Isaiah had a Vision of the Lord?
In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne.
Lets see if we can understand what Trinitarians can, and see if St John was referring to Isaiah seeing Jesus as Yahweh/GOD?
Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” John 8:56 Firstly, there are two references of St John who is referring to Isaiah.
Of course, we turn to John 37: and right through to the main verse in question used by Trinitarians in 12:41.
The Unbelief of the People
When Jesus had said these things, he departed and hid himself from them. 37 Though he had done so many signs before them, they still did not believe in him, 38 so that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: “Lord, who has believed what he heard from us, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”
Theres the first reference by St John in verse 38: so that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: We continue to the second reference by St John.
39 Therefore they could not believe. For again Isaiah said, 40“ He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, lest they see with their eyes, and understand with their heart, and turn, and I would heal them.” 41 Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory and spoke of him.
And there is the second reference by St John: Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory and spoke of him. John 12:
Now we have come to the very words of St John referring to Isaiah. Now lets have a look at the very words of Isaiah St John was referring to? They are in fact right in front of us. Isaiah said in Isaiah 53:1:
Who has believed what he has heard from us? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? St John said: 37 Though he had done so many signs before them, they still did not believe in him, 38 so that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: What do we read? We read that GOD’s people did not believe Isaiah, which was also a PROPHESY and FORESHADOWING Jesus in: John 12:37: Though he had done so many signs before them, they still did not believe in him, 38 so that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: Now we come to the second references of St John who is referring to Isaiah.
IS THE TRINITARIAN CLAIM TRUE OR FALSE?
DID Isaiah see Jesus as (GOD/Yahweh) in Isaiah 6:1 where we read Isaiah had a Vision of the Lord?
The TRINITARIAN claim is clearly FALSE.
Notice there is not a single reference or statement by St John referring to Isaiah 6:1 where we read Isaiah had a Vision of the Lord GOD.
What then did Isaiah refer to?
The answer is in Luke 24:26,27?
Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?” And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself. Luke 24:26,27.
Isaiah saw the glory of the Kingdom of messiah Jesus.
And this is why St John said: Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory and spoke of him. John 12:42 .
St John was referring to Isaiah’s fulfilled prophecies, which was nothing to do with the false Trinitarian assumption that St John was referring to Isaiah's vision (Yahweh).
Or that Isaiah saw Jesus as (GOD/Yahweh).
Trinitarian Contradictions.
We also have another serious problem with the Trinitarians claiming Isaiah saw Jesus as (GOD/Yahweh).
Notice how the Trinitarians claim that the vision of Isaiah was Jesus Christ as (Yahweh) on GOD’s THRONE.
This Trinitarian belief now creates countless more contradictions.
Because the Bible clearly teaches Jesus is sitting at the right hand of His GOD.
The LORD says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.” Psalm 110:1.
The scriptures clearly teach there are TWO SEPARATE BEINGS, who are Father and Son who are side by side and not ONE being.
And yet Isaiah said: I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne.
Thats ONE person we read Isaiah saying he saw sitting on a throne.
That’s very odd because the TRINITY faith teach there are THREE SEPARATE beings in the Godhead of the TRINITY and not ONE.
Not only does Isaiah 6:1, go against the TRINITY and completely CONTRADICTS their faith, but Isaiah 6:1 proves that Jesus cannot be the same (GOD/Yahweh) as we are told by Jesus Himself that He is sitting at the right hand of His GOD which makes TWO SEPARATE beings side by side which confirms with countless teachings as below.
“‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at my right hand, until I put your enemies under your feet”’? Matthew 22:44
Jesus said to him, “You have said so. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Matthew 26:64
So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. Mark 16:19
Notice another Biblical fact.
If Jesus were GOD, as Jesus is at the right hand of His God, we would then have TWO GODS side by side, contradicting the whole Bible.
I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God; I equip you, though you do not know me, Isaiah 45:5.
And yet as we see in the Catholic diagram below which represents the TRINITY faith, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are all SEPARATE BEINGS.
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And as we see in another Catholic image below, there are THREE SEPARATE beings and yet in the other hand Trinitarians are saying Isaiah 6:1, proves Jesus is GOD and yet Isaiah did not see THREE SEPARATE beings as we we expect if the TRINITY doctrine were correct, but Isaiah only saw ONE being on the throne.
In this case of Isaiah 6:1, and John 12:41, the Trinity faith are teaching the opposite to what they believe that Jesus the Son is (GOD the Father Yahweh).
Isaiah faith.
GOD very clearly revealed to Isaiah His most important rule, that GOD is ONE GOD alone. In agreement with Judaism, a monotheistic religion.
GOD also revelled through Isaiah the greatest prophesy ever told as we have seen in Isaiah 53.
And there is absolutely no indication anywhere in Isaiah’s book that he was confused and had mistaken the ONE TRUE GOD as the prophesied Messiah.
Do Trinitarians believe GOD is ONE or THREE?
Trinitarians prove with their own hands how they do not understand what they believe, and in this case as we clearly see they use Isaiah 6:1 as a perfect example revealing their own confusion.
Trinitarian who believe GOD is THREE, are now in support of a different faith that they do not believe in, known as Modalism. That is a belief that the THREE persons of the Trinity is NOT distinct or SEPARATE as the doctrine of the TRINITY, but instead represent ONE GOD who is three modes.
The concept that Jesus is God the Father expressing Himself in a different ‘mode’ or expression (it is proposed today by such groups as the Oneness Pentecostals).
We clearly see how the TRINITY faith are saying here Jesus is Yahweh/GOD supporting the Oneness Pentecostals faith that they do not believe.
And yet the Biblical facts prove there is NO evidence whatsoever, or a single statement by Isaiah teaching or saying GOD is the same person as His Son, or that GOD would Himself leave His heavenly Kingdom and become a man and let the very people He loved and created “kill Him” on the cross.
If this were the case, as Trinitarians claim, that Jesus is Yahweh GOD, that would mean GOD did not send, give, and sacrifice His own begotten Son Jesus, but instead it would mean GOD sent, gave, and sacrificed HIMSELF.
Again, If this were the case, as Trinitarians claim, that Jesus is Yahweh GOD, that would mean no one would be saved, because the REQUIREMENT for salvation is to believe: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16.
Notice this simple teaching that we are to believe GOD gave his only Son, which whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16.
And yet the Trinitarians claim that Jesus is Yahweh GOD, which means GOD sacrificed HIMSELF and not His Son, which then goes against what we are told to believe to be saved.
Behold my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen, in whom my soul delights; I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the nations. Isaiah 42:1
Isaiah 53:10. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
Jesus made it very clear to us by confirming His Father GOD is certainly: ONE GOD, ONE BEING, ONE PERSON, GOD ALONE, WITH NO GOD NEXT TO HIM, BESIDE HIM, IN HIM, OR WITH HIM, proving (HE) THE ONE TRUE GOD is NOT THREE called the TRINITY.
And this is why: Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is (ONE). Mark 12:29.
We have now examined and again have seen: Isaiah 6:1, and John 12:41, is Yet AGAIN another Trinitarian deception.
I am Simon Brown. Thank you for reading my research. Amen.
