What do Trinitarians believe?
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As we read above, Trinitarians claim the author of Hebrews
called Jesus GOD in Hebrews 1:8, because the verse says: (the throne of you o God) and therefor Trinitarians
teach and believe Hebrews 1:8, proves Jesus is GOD.
Is this Trinitarian claim TRUE or FALSE?
Who was the author of Hebrews referring to?
I believe the author of the letter to the Hebrews 1:8,9, was
referring to the marriage of Solomon with an Egyptian princess, in Psalm 45,
which is a poem, and a wedding song, and is a Messianic prophecy, in Hebrews
1:8-9, of Jesus Christ, who will RULE as a (Mighty God), on the throne of David.
The psalm has frequently been interpreted as a Messianic
prophecy.
Please see article at the end: Psalm 45, From Wikipedia, the
free encyclopedia
But why then is Jesus called God here in Hebrews 1:8?
The poet of Psalm 45:6, (Your
throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of
uprightness; is clearly addressing the king Solomon as a God.
This is because GOD Almighty exulted the king Solomon to be
as a God, which is a foreshadow of GOD’s Son Jesus.
Jesus confirmed in John 10:34:
Jesus answered them, “Is it not
written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If he called them gods to whom
the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken—
Jesus was referring to (Psalm 82:6) which says -
I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;
Jesus was referring to (gods) as in the sense of Magistrates
and Prophets and judges, appointed by the word of GOD.
Jesus was confirming that His Father addresses certain people as God or gods.
The poet of Psalm 45, was addressing king Solomon as (Your throne, O God, meaning as a God, which is why the writer to the Hebrews was also foreshadowing Jesus Christ in a similar way as to being (a God) like Magistrates and Prophets and judges,
appointed by THE GOD.
Also notice what St Paul has to say on this matter regarding
God’s or gods and the difference between THE ONE TRUE GOD?
For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as
indeed there are many “gods” and
many “lords”— yet for us there is one God, the Father, from
whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and
through whom we exist. 1 Corinthians 8:5,6.
Hebrews 1:8, is also inline with ISAIAH 9:6, where we see Jesus is called a Mighty God.
For to us a child is born, to us a
son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall
be called Wonderful Counselor, (Mighty
God), Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. English Standard
Version.
It is interesting to know why the word (Father) is NOT in the Greek text. If you know why this
word (Father) is missing please email me on mrsimonbrown@aol.com
Did you notice what I did? Jesus is a (Mighty God).
Why is Jesus a (Mighty God)?
The answer is given by Jesus Himself in John 5:19:
So Jesus said to them, “Truly,
truly, I say to you, the Son can do
nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For
whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise.
Do you not believe that I am in the
Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on
my own authority, but the Father who
dwells in me does his works. John 14:10.
This man came to Jesus by night and
said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one
can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” John 3:2.
If this man were not from God, he
could do nothing.” John 9:33.
Jesus is a (Mighty God), not
because He is THE ONE TRUE GOD, but that THE ALMIGHTY ONE TRUE GOD His Father,
dwells in Him who does his works, and because Jesus was the only person who was
BORN/BEGOTTEN directly from His Father GOD, Jesus received His Fathers
IDENTICAL NATURE.
As THE ALMIGHTY GOD The Father dwells in Jesus who is doing
his works, that proves Jesus is NOT THE SAME ALMIGHTY GOD Himself, but that: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all
creation. Colossians 1:15.
But Jesus looked at them and said,
“With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
Matthew 19:26
You are the God who works wonders;
you have made known your might among the peoples. Psalm 77:14
The scriptures themselves reveal a divine truth.
The author of Hebrews is NOT teaching Jesus Christ is THE
GOD, but is teaching exactly the same as the prophecy in ISAIAH 9:6.
BOTH, Hebrews 1:8 and ISAIAH 9:6 are teaching Jesus will
be on the (throne of David) ruling as a Mighty God, appointed by His Father (THE ALMIGHTY GOD), for ever and ever which is why we read: But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and
ever. Hebrews 1:8.
The author of Hebrews was telling us about the prophecy in
Psalm 45:6, where he wrote down the exact, word for word in Hebrews 1:8.
Let us have a look?
Your throne, O God, is forever and
ever. The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness; Psalm
45:6.
But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and
ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. Hebrews 1:8.
Both translations by: English Standard Version.
of Your kingdom scepter of uprightness the scepter and ever [is] forever O God Your throne. Psalm 45:6. Interlinear.
“the throne of you the God” [is] to
the age of the age and the sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of the
kingdom of you. Hebrews 1:8.
Interlinear.
Some believe that Hebrews 1:8, is wrongly translated and
should read:
"To the Son He says, 'The throne of you the God to the
age of the age. The sceptre of righteousness the sceptre of your kingdom/kingship"
(1:8).
An American Translation (Smith-Goodspeed), “God is your throne....”
The Bible in Living English (Byington) “God is your throne....”
The Message “Your throne is God’s
throne….”
However despite the many other views and translations of
Hebrews 1:8, I go by my own translation in the Greek text of the Codex
Vaticanus which clearly reads:
As we read, the two scriptures of Psalm 45:6 and Hebrews
1:8, are virtual identical and proves the author of Hebrews, was well aware of
the Old Testament scriptures teachings and prophecies.
But why is Psalm 45:6 and Hebrews 1:8 used to teach Jesus
will be on the (throne of David) as a God.
Because Psalm 45:6, is about King David’s (THRONE) and His
Son Solomon who were both exalted as a God, by THE ONE TRUE GOD, and who sat
on the throne of Yahweh which fulfills countless prophecies just like the
prophecy in ISAIAH 9:6 and Hebrews 1:8 and just as Jesus said: The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my
throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.
So Psalm 45:6 Isaiah 9:6 and Hebrews 1:8 are just some of many scriptures foreshadowing Jesus as
our great and final perfect King of all Kings acting as our mediator sitting down on the
throne with His GOD Yahweh.
On his robe and on his thigh he has
a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. Revelation 19:16.
Just as King David and His Son Solomon where exalted as
a God, who were the Kings appointed by THE GOD of Israel.
Just as the example of Joseph who was ruling and sitting at
the right hand of Pharaoh in Egypt, is also symbolic and meaningful of Christ who is now: seated at the right hand of the throne of God. Hebrews 12:2.
Apparently there are many similarities with Solomon as a
type of Christ, except that Jesus never sinned.
King David tells us in 1 Chronicles 28:5: And of all my sons (for the LORD has given me many sons) he
has chosen Solomon my son to sit on the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over
Israel. 1 Chronicles 28:5.
Solomon’s Kingdom is a Type of Christ’s Kingdom to come in
the Millennia period as told in Revelation 20.
Blessed be the LORD your God, who
has delighted in you and set you on his throne as king for the LORD your God!
Because your God loved Israel and would establish them forever, he has made you
king over them, that you may execute justice and righteousness.” English Standard Version
At that time Jerusalem shall be
called the throne of the LORD, and all nations shall gather to it, to the
presence of the LORD in Jerusalem, and they shall no more stubbornly follow
their own evil heart. Jeremiah 3:17
And Kingdom of Christ.
Your throne, O God, is forever and
ever. The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness; Psalm
45:6.
King David foreshadowing Jesus.
The LORD says to my Lord: “Sit at my
right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.” Psalm 110:1.
Jesus.
“‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at
my right hand, until I put your enemies under your feet”’? Matthew
22:44.
Jesus said to him, “You have said
so. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right
hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Matthew 26:64.
Conclusion.
Is this Trinitarian claim TRUE or FALSE?
Does Hebrews 1:8 prove Jesus is GOD?
NO, Hebrews 1:8 proves the opposite, that Jesus is not GOD.
Because the writer of Hebrews was referring to the Messianic
prophecy of king Solomon as a God, Psalm 45:6, (Your
throne, O God), in the same example as Magistrates and Prophets and
judges, appointed by THE GOD. (Psalm 82:6) John 10:34. 1 Corinthians 8:5.
If Hebrews 1:8 proves Jesus is THE GOD, then king Solomon was
also THE GOD.
And that’s why the writer of the letter to the Hebrews used
the Messianic prophecy of king Solomon, Your throne, O
God, is forever and ever. The King was honoured and exalted as a God who
was GOD’s right hand man sitting on the Davidic King, Solomon’s throne of
YAHWEH, just as we are now: Looking to Jesus, the founder and
perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the
cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of
God. Hebrews 12:2.
If Jesus were already the same “one true GOD” who loves
RIGHTEOUSNESS, and hates LAWLESSNESS, then why would Jesus be any different to
His Father GOD in the first place?
And if Jesus were already the same “one true GOD” why would
GOD the father ANOINT Jesus with; THE OIL OF GLADNESS?
Because surely GOD would be ANOINTING Himself.
It is obvious if GOD
the Father, and Jesus the SON, were the same GOD they would simply say: WE GOD
THE FATHER AND GOD THE SON ARE ONE GOD, AND THE SAME GOD.
Most do not understand the simple difference between ‘God’
and THE GOD. Trinitarians simply see the word God applied to Jesus and simply
believe that’s the evidence that Jesus is GOD, without studying why Jesus is
referred to as God.
Jesus is referred to as “God” a few times for sure, others
are called God or gods, including, angels, and even glorified members of the
Church, Moses was made a God by THE GOD, and even Satan is called the God of
this world.
The final proof Jesus is NOT the same GOD as THE ONLY ONE
TRUE GOD is in the very next verse of: Hebrews 1:9.
The writer of Hebrews 1:9, clearly confirms Jesus has a GOD,
by saying: You have loved righteousness and hated
wickedness; therefore (THE) God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of
gladness beyond your companions.”
Simply notice in the Greek text, (THE) GOD, THE GOD of you?
Jesus cannot be that same ONE TRUE GOD, as The ONE TRUE GOD is His GOD, and if Jesus was that SAME ONE TRUE GOD, He could NOT have a GOD, as we clearly see The ONE TRUE GOD is His GOD.
These two words: THE GOD THE GOD of you, proves both the ONENESS Pentecostal faith and the TRINITY faith wrong, who sadly and madly can’t understand, Jesus has a GOD proving Jesus is NOT that same GOD, because He has a GOD and there is only ONE TRUE GOD, and if
Jesus was GOD, as the writer of Hebrews confirms Jesus has a GOD, we would then
have TWO GODS, side by side, and THREE GODS if the Holy Spirit is also a
SEPARATE person as the TRINITY teach which contradicts the whole Bible.
If Jesus were THE TRUE GOD, that would mean His Father would not be THE ONE TRUE GOD, because THE ONE TRUE GOD cannot have a TRUE GOD, and would instead make TWO TRUE GODS.
As GOD is GOD ALONE, thats what makes GOD the ONE TRUE GOD, which is why there is NO OTHER GOD LIKE THE ONE TRUE GOD.
Remember the former things of old;
for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me,
Isaiah 46:9.
I will leave you with an article about Psalm 45, and some
Trinitarian commentaries on Psalm 45:6.
Note how Trinitarian commentaries are confused with Psalm
45:6?
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Because Trinitarian’s do not understand the truth, that GOD
Almighty is GOD alone, and believe Jesus is also GOD, they therefor are very confused
with why the writer of Hebrews is addressing the Davidic King Solomon, who was
sat on the throne of Yahweh as a God, NOT understanding the King is also representing
Jesus sitting down on the throne of Yahweh RULING this time as the perfect King
as a (Mighty God), for THE ALMIGHTY GOD, who is His ONLY ONE TRUE GOD. John
17:3, Mark 12:29.
Psalm 45:1 Probably refers to Solomon as a type of Christ:
You need to read this about Hebrews 1:8
ReplyDeletehttp://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009/09/heb-18.html?m=1
Roly, how is it you seem to think I don't know it is you leaving the 2 comments?
DeleteAnd how it is you cannot understand what is so simple to understand by sending me an article saying Jesus is GOD, and by doing so you Trinitarians keep on proving you believe there are THREE GODS, but do not admit that truth that you believe there are THREE GODS.
How is it you cannot understand the Hebrews writer is referring to Jesus as a God, and the Father as GOD, and NOT ONE SINGLE GOD, proving you believe there are THREE GODS with your false separate spirit.
You Trinitarians continually demonstrate how so very confused and deceived you all are by your own hands.
The TRUTH of Hebrews 1:8.
ReplyDelete1. The English language makes a clear distinction between “God” and “god.” Thus, in English Bibles, the heavenly Father is called “God,” while lesser divinities, people with God’s authority on earth and important people such as kings, are also called “god” (2 Cor. 4:4; John 10:34 and 35; Acts 12:22). The Hebrew and Aramaic languages cannot make the distinction between “God” and “god.” Since Hebrew and Aramaic have only capital letters, every use is “GOD.” Furthermore, although the Greek language has both upper case and lower case letters as English does, the early Greek manuscripts did not blend them. It was the style of writing at the time of the New Testament to make manuscripts in all capital letters, so the Greek manuscripts were, like the Hebrew text, all upper case script. Scholars call these manuscripts “uncials,” and that style was popular until the early ninth century or so when a smaller script was developed for books. [1]
Since all texts were in upper case script, if we translated Genesis 1:1 and 2 as it appeared in the Hebrew manuscripts, it would read: FULL ARTICLE HERE https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/featured/hebrews-1-8
https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/featured/hebrews-1-8