QUICK FACTS: JOHN 14:9 & JOHN 10:30
DO JOHN 14:9 AND JOHN 10:30 REALLY PROVE THAT JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY?
Some Trinitarian teachers, including Dr. Grady McMurtry, appeal to John 14:9 and John 10:30 as evidence that Jesus is God Almighty.
But is that what Jesus actually said?
Rather than beginning with a theological doctrine and reading it back into these verses, let's examine Jesus' own words and their immediate context.
QUICK FACT 1 — JOHN 14:9
Berean Literal Bible
“Jesus says to him, ‘Am I with you so long a time, and you have not known Me, Philip? The one having seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, “Show us the Father”?’”
John 14:9
The argument is often:
Jesus said:
“THE ONE HAVING SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER.”
Therefore:
JESUS MUST BE GOD.
But there is an immediate problem with interpreting Jesus' statement as meaning:
“I AM THE FATHER.”
The Trinity doctrine itself teaches that:
The Son is NOT the Father.
So Jesus cannot have meant that Philip was literally looking at the Father Himself.
What, then, did Jesus mean?
LET JESUS EXPLAIN HIS OWN WORDS
We don't have to guess, because Jesus continues speaking in the very next verse.
John 14:10 — Berean Literal Bible
“Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak from Myself; but the Father dwelling in Me does His works.”
Notice carefully what Jesus says:
“THE FATHER DWELLING IN ME DOES HIS WORKS.”
Jesus does NOT say:
“I AM THE FATHER.”
Instead, Jesus distinguishes Himself from the Father who is dwelling in Him.
This gives us the context for understanding:
“THE ONE HAVING SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER.”
Jesus perfectly revealed His Father.
JESUS IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD
Paul uses remarkably similar language:
Colossians 1:15 — Berean Literal Bible
“He is the image of the invisible God…”
Notice the distinction:
Jesus is:
THE IMAGE
of:
THE INVISIBLE GOD.
An image perfectly represents the one whose image it is.
This fits naturally with Jesus' statement:
“THE ONE HAVING SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER.”
Jesus revealed the character, works, authority and nature of the Father who sent Him.
HEBREWS MAKES THE SAME POINT
Hebrews 1:3 describes the Son as:
“THE RADIANCE OF HIS GLORY AND THE EXACT IMPRINT OF HIS SUBSTANCE…”
Again we have a distinction between the Son and the One whose glory and substance He represents.
Jesus is therefore the perfect revelation of His God and Father.
JESUS SAID THE FATHER SENT HIM
Throughout John's Gospel, Jesus repeatedly distinguishes Himself from God who sent Him.
John 8:42 — Berean Literal Bible
“…for I came forth from God and am here; for not even have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.”
And Jesus later prayed:
John 17:3 — Berean Literal Bible
“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”
Jesus identifies:
THE FATHER
as:
“THE ONLY TRUE GOD”
and then distinguishes Himself as:
“JESUS CHRIST WHOM YOU HAVE SENT.”
This provides essential context when interpreting John 14:9.
QUICK FACT 2 — JOHN 10:30
Now let's examine another verse frequently used as a Trinity proof text.
Jesus said:
John 10:30 — Berean Literal Bible
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.”
Does Jesus say:
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE GOD”?
NO.
The words “one God” do not appear in John 10:30.
Jesus simply says:
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.”
So the question is:
ONE IN WHAT SENSE?
JOHN'S GOSPEL GIVES US THE ANSWER
Jesus later prayed concerning His disciples:
John 17:11 — Berean Literal Bible
“…Holy Father, keep them in Your name, which You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.”
Look carefully:
“THAT THEY MAY BE ONE AS WE ARE.”
If being “one” made Jesus and His Father one literal being or one person, then the same reasoning would make all of Jesus' disciples one literal being.
Obviously, that is not what Jesus meant.
JESUS MAKES IT EVEN CLEARER
John 17:21–22 — Berean Literal Bible
Jesus prayed:
“that all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You…”
And:
“that they may be one, as We are one.”
This is extremely important for understanding John 10:30.
Jesus uses the language of oneness for His followers.
The disciples remain many individual persons, yet they are to become:
ONE
through unity, agreement, love, faith and purpose.
Therefore, when Jesus says:
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE”
the statement does not by itself mean:
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE GOD.”
That phrase simply isn't there.
LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF JOHN 10
Jesus had been talking about His sheep.
John 10:27
“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.”
Jesus then says:
John 10:28
“And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish to the age, and no one will seize them out of My hand.”
Then Jesus speaks about His Father:
John 10:29
“My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all, and no one is able to seize them out of the hand of the Father.”
Then comes:
John 10:30
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.”
Notice the parallel:
NO ONE CAN SEIZE THEM FROM JESUS' HAND.
and:
NO ONE CAN SEIZE THEM FROM THE FATHER'S HAND.
Then Jesus concludes:
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.”
The context therefore naturally concerns the united work of the Father and Son in protecting the sheep.
JESUS ALSO SAID THE FATHER GAVE THEM TO HIM
John 10:29 contains another important detail:
“MY FATHER WHO HAS GIVEN THEM TO ME…”
The Father is the giver.
Jesus is the recipient.
Once again, Jesus and His Father are working in complete unity, but they remain distinguishable throughout the passage.
JESUS EVEN IDENTIFIES HIMSELF AS THE SON OF GOD
Only a few verses later Jesus answers His opponents.
John 10:36 — Berean Literal Bible
“…do you say, ‘You blaspheme,’ of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, because I said,
‘I AM SON OF GOD’?”
Notice what Jesus himself identifies as His claim:
He does NOT say:
“I SAID, I AM GOD.”
He says:
“I SAID, I AM SON OF GOD.”
And once again:
THE FATHER SANCTIFIED HIM.
THE FATHER SENT HIM.
This distinction is built directly into Jesus' explanation.
PUT JOHN 14:9 AND JOHN 10:30 TOGETHER
Now the picture becomes much clearer.
JOHN 14:9
“The one having seen Me has seen the Father.”
WHY?
Jesus immediately explains:
JOHN 14:10
“THE FATHER DWELLING IN ME DOES HIS WORKS.”
And:
JOHN 10:30
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.”
ONE WHAT?
Jesus uses the same language concerning His followers:
JOHN 17:22
“THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE.”
The passages therefore do not require the conclusion that Jesus was claiming to be the same God as His Father.
They describe the extraordinary unity between God and His Messiah.
THE SIMPLE BIBLICAL DISTINCTION
The Bible repeatedly presents:
ONE GOD — THE FATHER
and:
ONE LORD — JESUS CHRIST.
Paul states this plainly:
1 Corinthians 8:6 — Berean Literal Bible
“yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things and we for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we through Him.”
Notice that Paul does not define the “one God” as Father, Son and Holy Spirit in this verse.
He identifies:
“ONE GOD, THE FATHER.”
And separately:
“ONE LORD, JESUS CHRIST.”
QUICK FACT CONCLUSION
Do John 14:9 and John 10:30 actually say:
JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY?
NO — NEITHER VERSE SAYS THOSE WORDS.
John 14:9 tells us that seeing Jesus is seeing the Father perfectly represented through His Son.
Jesus himself explains:
“THE FATHER DWELLING IN ME DOES HIS WORKS.”
John 10:30 tells us:
“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.”
But Jesus later prays that His disciples:
“MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE ONE.”
And within the very same John 10 discussion Jesus identifies His claim as:
“I AM SON OF GOD.”
The distinction remains:
THE FATHER IS GOD.
JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD.
THE FATHER SENT THE SON.
THE FATHER DWELLED AND WORKED THROUGH HIS SON.
THE FATHER AND SON ARE PERFECTLY UNITED.
Therefore, rather than taking two short statements in isolation, we should allow Jesus' own explanations to determine their meaning.
That is the difference between simply reading a Trinity doctrine into these verses and asking:
WHAT DID JESUS ACTUALLY SAY?
Research by Simon Brown
wwwrealdiscoveriesorg-simon.blogspot.com
OLD RESEARCH
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